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July 30, 2014 at 3:20 pm #22028
Joelsim
ACL?
WTF?
So used to picking teams for a stage race, I swear I have absolutely no idea how to do this one.
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enrique
Gkam84 wrote:Enrique, [I]
… need to learn to respond to people with more empathy and in so doing seem less impulsive, less immature, less irresponsible and less irritable, but it’s hard for me because I’m an emotional guy that lets his frustrations be vented unto people and things he finds annoying and irritating with a force that I find hard to gauge and whose effects on how the organization is viewed by my actions hardly comes into consciousness…’Gkam84 wrote:Enrique, [I] REALLY REALLY REALLY….
If that is what you meant, then I accept your explanation and will try to be more patient with you.northstar
enrique wrote:Gkam84
enrique wrote:
… need to be more patient and professional…Gkam84 wrote:Enrique, [I] REALLY REALLY REALLY…After Springgate?
Gkam84
I’m pretty sure that WE as
I’m pretty sure that WE as the people who have run the game has been more the patient with you, you are now getting on our tits and I personally would put you on permanent mute status and then every subsequent account you created after that.As for professional, that went out the window the minute you were told that we weren’t going to change things to suit you, yet you kept on posting about it. Give it up, things are not going to change and I would quite happily give you some tips to setting up your own website and game.
enrique
Gkam84 wrote:Enrique, [I]
… need to be more patient and professional…Gkam84 wrote:Enrique, [I] REALLY REALLY REALLY…Enrique, we REALLY REALLY
Enrique, we REALLY REALLY REALLY don’t need your input on the game.If you want certain rules, races, budgets…..etc. Please, by all means, go run your own game on your own site.
Otherwise, PLEASE be quiet and let us get on with it
enrique
Ghedebrav wrote:… I do
Ghedebrav wrote:… I do think there’s a case for both Paris-Tours and Milano-Torino…enrique wrote:I know it’s not going to happen, but… it seems like Milano-Torino and the Giro del Piemonte don’t conflict with anythng on the calendar… Paris Tours… does conflict with the Tour of Beijing, but…
Damn, Dave, I’ll plead! 🙂 Can we have Milano-Torino and the Giro del Piemonte on the schedule, please?… And (!) if you think about it, the Tour of Beijing and Paris Tours are on different time zones (!) So they wouldn’t conflict timewise(!) 😀.
Dave Atkinson wrote:…And no, you didn’t get either Paris-Tours or Milan-Torino last year..
Damn, Dave, I’m a little confused, too, ’cause you said we didn’t have Paris Tours or Milan-Torino last year but there’s this thread:http://road.cc/content/forum/96303-paris-tours
and this one:
http://road.cc/content/forum/95475-autumn-classic-milano-torino
which seem to indicate we did (!) have both races last year?… Am I mistaken?… 😕
dave atkinson
enrique wrote:I know it’s not
enrique wrote:I know it’s not going to happennow would be a good time to stop going on about it, in that case.
Quote:And no, you didn’t get
And no, you didn’t get either Paris-Tours or Milan-Torino last yearOh yes we did, 2013 competition archives.
Autumn Classics: Milano – Torino
Autumn Classics: Giro di Lombardia
Autumn Classics: Binche – Chimay – Binche
Autumn Classics: Paris – Toursenrique
Ghedebrav wrote:… I do
I know it’s not going to happen, but, just in case, here’s the Cyclingnews calendar for October for these races and it seems like Milano-Torino and the Giro del Piemonte don’t conflict with anythng on the calendar right now… And Paris Tours, well, it does conflict with the Tour of Beijing, but, wouldn’t it be nice to run them?… 😀Ghedebrav wrote:… I do think there’s a case for both Paris-Tours and Milano-Torino…enrique
Ghedebrav wrote:… I do
I know it’s not going to happen, but, just in case, here’s the Cyclingnews calendar for October for these races and it seems like Milano-Torino and the Giro del Piemonte don’t conflict with anythng on the calendar right now… And Paris Tours, well, it does conflict with the Tour of Beijing, but, wouldn’t it be nice to run them?… 😀Ghedebrav wrote:… I do think there’s a case for both Paris-Tours and Milano-Torino…enrique
TERatcliffe26 wrote:… Its
Dave is one smart guy… =D> Thanks, TER… Dave, how does the algorithm for the budget value work?… 😕 No astrophysics, please… 🙂TERatcliffe26 wrote:… Its in the game engine….I just select the teams and
I just select the teams and then set the rider values. Once they are set I just ask it to recommend the budget, it does its thing and gives me a number. Its in the game engine.If I think the number is acceptable I can put that in as the budget, or change it if we wish. In this instance due to the volume of riders it was always going to suggest lower than if we had the startlists for all 6 races, and no difference of teams from race to race, so I upped it slightly
enrique
TERatcliffe26 wrote:… I
Out of curiousity… 😕 How do you run the formula? Is it part of the game or is it in an Excel spreadsheet outside of it? Do you put all the riders in the competition into the database and then tell it to suggest a budget based on those riders and then you decide whether to ‘up’ it or not?… Do you then enter the number you think is ‘fair’ into the game?… 😕 Thanks for responding… The way the game is run is really interesting to me…TERatcliffe26 wrote:… I don’t know any details about the formula…. I upped the budget… and thus… Todays budget looked about right… the formula doesn’t take into account 3 credit riders, so actually provides you with more budget than if it did include those riders.enrique wrote:TERatcliffe26
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What are the parameters of the formula you guys are using?… Did Dave come up with the formula?… 😕 Does it use the size of the field?… The average value of the entire field? The distribution of those values?… It’s kind of weird to see you write ‘it’ suggested a particular number… The formula establishes a relationship between the values which, obviously, the person who created the formula predetermined a base value for, just like someone determined the highest value a rider should have in the game is 40.0 credits and the lowest value should be 3.0 credits, the formula you are using has established a certain relationship between how it will solve for what the formula creator ‘thinks’ the budget value should be, based on the criteria the formula creator finds relevant and inserts into the formula itself… 😕 It’d be nice to see that formula, I have to believe it’s fairly simple and probably uses two or three variables, maybe just the size of the field and the average value of the riders in the field and some sort of relationship that sets these values to be around 150 for a certain average rider value, can you share it?… :?TERatcliffe26 wrote:… On the budget it suggested 129…I don’t know any details about the formula.
Alls I can say with these races is took into account all riders on all the rosters for the teams in todays race, and teams that are competing in other races within the competition (that being done once th riders values for all those teams had been set based on all the up coming stages being lumpy) Therefore I upped the budget as not all riders would be riding, and thus there may be more expensive riders racing, or there may not. Todays budget looked about right.
Oh also the formula doesn’t take into account 3 credit riders, so actually provides you with more budget than if it did include those riders.
enrique
TERatcliffe26 wrote:… On
What are the parameters of the formula you guys are using?… Did Dave come up with the formula?… 😕 Does it use the size of the field?… The average value of the entire field? The distribution of those values?… It’s kind of weird to see you write ‘it’ suggested a particular number… The formula establishes a relationship between the values which, obviously, the person who created the formula predetermined a base value for, just like someone determined the highest value a rider should have in the game is 40.0 credits and the lowest value should be 3.0 credits, the formula you are using has established a certain relationship between how it will solve for what the formula creator ‘thinks’ the budget value should be, based on the criteria the formula creator finds relevant and inserts into the formula itself… 😕 It’d be nice to see that formula, I have to believe it’s fairly simple and probably uses two or three variables, maybe just the size of the field and the average value of the riders in the field and some sort of relationship that sets these values to be around 150 for a certain average rider value, can you share it?… 😕TERatcliffe26 wrote:… On the budget it suggested 129… -
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