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Motorcyclist / cyclist collision near Buckingham Palace

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  • May 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm #794335
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    boil-in-the-bag

    I reported this on 7th March
    I reported this on 7th March via the Crimestoppers website, linking the original and a copy YouTube video. The original was deleted, the linked YT copy was removed due to ‘copyright violation’. There was no response from Crimestoppers and the incident is no longer there. I should have spammed forums first in the hope the cyclist would see the video.

    May 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm #794333
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    Gkam84

    I have removed the video on
    I have removed the video on the back of a message from someone I trust


    Hello Keith,

    I just want you to know that that Ducati is scared for his life and has already been contacted by the police in regards to video.
    DD is a friend of mine and I agree what happened in that video was completely wrong. He has also seen the error of his ways.

    The problem he has now if the threat of violence towards him and his family from not only from cyclists but the motorcycling community.

    I want to ask you is to please remove that video not only from here, but the other locations as well.

    Please consider these reasons;
    1) The video is not yours
    2) He learnt his lesson
    3) The police are looking into it

    Removing the video will not save him from the justice which will be served. But it will get some of the hate and fear off of his back.

    Regards,
    *******

    May 20, 2014 at 3:28 pm #794331
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    OldRidgeback

    Gkam84 wrote:If you look at

    Gkam84 wrote:
    If you look at the user info for that comment, the poster has only just registered. I suspect that they ride a cycle over a motorcycle, as do most of the new posters on that thread :evil:

    You could be right about that Gkam – I ride motorcycles and bicycles and have done for donkey’s years. I even had a Ducati. I’m not sure which I ride over which. I’ve two of one and three of the other if that helps. 🙂

    The bloke on the Ducati could have and should have easily avoided that incident by better anticipation. I’m not totally convinced it was deliberate and the bars on the Hypermotard have mirrors on the end so they’re pretty wide and it’s possible he clipped the bicycle while making a close pass. But even if it wasn’t deliberate, it was inexcusably terrible riding on his part as there was no need for such a close pass and he deserves some penalty points and a fine for that.

    I still can’t get over the fact that the dunce on the bike was talking on the phone while riding up such a busy London street either.

    They deserve each other.

    May 20, 2014 at 2:43 pm #794329
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    Farky

    As a biker & cyclist – the
    As a biker & cyclist – the t##t on the Ducati should be banned from our roads and have to resit to get his licence back.

    Disgusting!

    For the Police – entering/filtering a cycle lane, possibly even intent to cause harm, never mind the driving offence.

    has the cyclist been found/identified? They need to make a case first afaik.

    May 20, 2014 at 2:40 pm #794327
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    bikebot

    Gkam84 wrote:Yeah….It was

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Yeah….It was uploaded by me, as I said further up the thread ;)

    Whoops, I SMIDSY’d you! Or is that SMIDSY[ou]T[ube]? 😀

    I reposted the link after seeing it on the Ducati forum, this is all getting a bit recursive :/

    May 20, 2014 at 2:37 pm #794325
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    thereverent

    The motorcyclists
    The motorcyclists regestration was spotted on another one of his videos and someone has reported this video to the Met through the Roadsafe website.

    May 20, 2014 at 2:30 pm #794323
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    Gkam84

    Roadsafe only works for 2
    Roadsafe only works for 2 weeks after the incident, so that was a waste of police time. This happened back in March. I have the reg plate number on my video anyway.

    May 20, 2014 at 2:20 pm #794321
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    Gkam84

    Yeah….It was uploaded by
    Yeah….It was uploaded by me, as I said further up the thread 😉

    May 20, 2014 at 1:57 pm #794319
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    bikebot

    Gkam84 wrote:If you look at

    Gkam84 wrote:
    If you look at the user info for that comment, the poster has only just registered. I suspect that they ride a cycle over a motorcycle, as do most of the new posters on that thread :evil:

    Oh yeah, certainly looks like they’ve gained a few new subscribers. Oh well, at least I can point to this comment from a genuine member, which oddly the OP agreed with.

    “Solidarity is a good thing, except when it applies to actual bad things actually caused by bikers.”

    I’m sure he knows he’s overwhelmingly in the wrong on this one and was basically a complete dick, he’s just doesn’t want to pay the price for his behaviour.

    If anyone wants to see the full video without downloading 300mb of avi file, it’s been uploaded again by someone on youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I2sJVkxUw

    May 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm #794317
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    Gkam84

    If you look at the user info
    If you look at the user info for that comment, the poster has only just registered. I suspect that they ride a cycle over a motorcycle, as do most of the new posters on that thread 👿

    May 20, 2014 at 1:27 pm #794315
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    OldRidgeback

    bikebot wrote:Paul_C

    bikebot wrote:
    Paul_C wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    Since I uploaded the video, someone posted it on that Ducati forum and the motorbiker has deleted his whole channel…..something to hide there??

    Mr. Ducati Rider is about to discover teh power of the internets…

    he’s obviously never heard of the “Streisand Effect”…

    I just took a look over at the Ducati forum, and it’s gone down pretty much how I thought it would (see the third page from the earlier link). For those bikers -> =D>

    I think this comment from one of the Ducati forum riders puts it rather succinctly:

    “So hows that posting a video of yourself deliberately driving into someone doing absolutely nothing wrong then lying through your back teeth about going then?

    You’re a terrible driver and shouldn’t be on the road”

    May 20, 2014 at 1:07 pm #794313
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    Gkam84

    Waiting for TFL to respond as
    Waiting for TFL to respond as to what the lane is for. It is narrow where he was hit, but fills a full lane if you go back a bit down Constitution Hill

    May 20, 2014 at 12:33 pm #794311
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    bikebot

    Paul_C wrote:Gkam84

    Paul_C wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    Since I uploaded the video, someone posted it on that Ducati forum and the motorbiker has deleted his whole channel…..something to hide there??

    Mr. Ducati Rider is about to discover teh power of the internets…

    he’s obviously never heard of the “Streisand Effect”…

    I just took a look over at the Ducati forum, and it’s gone down pretty much how I thought it would (see the third page from the earlier link). For those bikers -> =D>

    May 20, 2014 at 12:19 pm #794309
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    bikebot

    fukawitribe wrote:Gkam84

    fukawitribe wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    You cannot be fined for being on your phone on a pedal cycle, it is not illegal ;)

    Doesn’t the following apply ? (Can’t see it being amended in the acts up and including 2010)


    Cycling without due care and attention.

    Source: Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 29

    Offence: It is an offence for a person to ride a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road.

    The problem with catch all definitions is that they are difficult to prove for a specific circumstance unless a test case has established a precedent. Even then, someone could decide to challenge a conviction and establish a new precedent if they win their appeal.

    Road law in the UK tends to prefer specific guidance on these matters rather than umbrella catch all laws.

    May 20, 2014 at 12:05 pm #794307
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    Stumps

    Bikebikebike wrote:stumps

    Bikebikebike wrote:
    stumps wrote:
    Its a reportable rtc, as the cyclist received and injury but that seems to have been forgotten or was it mentioned later on in the video clip as i got bored and swiitched it off.

    Also can a poster explain the traffic layout for around the Palace as i dont know it, so should the cyclist have been in the middle of the road ??????

    Does it make any difference where he was? The biker could clearly see him. I don’t think being a bit out of lane entitles people to run you over. Does it?

    Please dont put words into my mouth.

    Like i said, i dont know the roads around the Palace so i was asking a simple straightforward question, should he have been in the middle of the road not whether he was asking to be hit from behind ?

    After reading the multitude of posts on the forum complaining how busy and dangerous the roads are around london you find someone actually cycling in the middle of what appears to be a busy road whilst on their phone.

    He then lies about it saying he had a hold of his phone, you can see it on the video at his ear ! so basically he doesn’t know the law but panics thinking he has broken it.

    As for the biker he is completely in the wrong and should be punished for it.

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