Do I need a Garmin?

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    jasecd

    Hi,

    I’m just recovering from knee surgery following an injury that has kept me off the bike for six months. I should be out riding in early May and I’m keen to get some kind of navigational assistance.

    Up until recently I have always ridden “blind” or printed out a little cheat sheet to keep in a jersey pocket, but I’m a bit sick of getting lost. Question is do I need a Garmin? They look great but are relatively pricey. I have an iPhone and I hear good things about open source mapping apps.

    Does anyone have experiences or recommendations either way? Also, what is the best smartphone mount you have found?

    Thanks in advance..

    Jase

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    Simon E

    As Redvee said, if you want a
    As Redvee said, if you want a sat-nav then just buy one or use one of the apps on the mobile.

    But if you merely to avoid getting lost why not use a map? Plan a route and learn to find your way around your own locality or wherever you’re based. I always decide my route before I set out. I keep an old road atlas in the drawer. If I may be riding on unfamiliar roads I take the local page folded up in a polypocket in my jersey pocket.

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    Flying Scot

    It’s the only 21st century
    It’s the only 21st century thing I have on my bikes, just the 200, it’s all I need to pace and record my runs.

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    philtregear

    not being a data obsessive i
    not being a data obsessive i dont need all that stuff. my phone makes phone calls, it even sends and recieves text messages ( amazing!). my garmin provides routing. that’s all i need. each to their own, but im only interested in the utility of gadgets, not their bells and whistles. Im guessing your smartphone, plus straps, apps and meters costs upwards of £200 per year and the battery lasts a few hours when out riding. plus you cant see the screen in full sunlight. correct??

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    Shep73

    Used mine for mapping (off
    Used mine for mapping (off road) and I do rate it, they do take some playing with (settings) though to get the best out of them. They are a great tool and would not go out without mine.

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    Redvee

    I think this topic can be
    I think this topic can be summed up in two questions

    Do you need a Garmin? No
    Do you want a Garmin? Yes

    If not true for the OP, it was for me.

    #784761
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    pauldmorgan

    philtregear wrote:my mobile

    philtregear wrote:
    my mobile cost £15, the battery lasts a week. my garmin cost £90., the battery lasts all day.go figure.

    Wow! Can you tell us all what mobile you have that has GPS, heart rate, cadence and will last a week whilst measuring all of those? And is only £15?

    Or are you comparing apples and oranges?

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    philtregear

    my mobile cost £15, the
    my mobile cost £15, the battery lasts a week. my garmin cost £90., the battery lasts all day.go figure.

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    KiwiMike

    Viewranger app. Paired with
    Viewranger app. Paired with OpenStreetmaps which you download to the phone for offline use anywhere in the world, or you can purchase OS maps on a sheet by sheet basis or bundles of parks/counties etc. VR is free, 4 1/2 stars from 383 reviews on iTunes. It works, and works very well.

    With VR you can use it totally free, using very detailed OpenStreetmaps (choose to download the ‘street level’ tiles of your desired route). You plan your route online, then sync it with the app – others can download the route as a GPX as well or view it online. I do this twice a week for our club, and it just works.

    This thread pretty much covers the ‘debate’: http://road.cc/content/forum/108899-smartphones-and-long-rides-strategy – basically, with a tiny bit of mobile battery management you can have turn-by-turn navigation on your handlebars lasting 8+ hrs without needing a recharge. And you can still use your phone as a phone.

    Re mount, you can go cheap but perfectly functional with the Bikecityguide Finn, or swanky with the Quadlock. Everything else is butt-ugly plastic faff IMHO.

    Cue posts from Garmin owners saying how their £300 was better spent than £0 đŸ™‚

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    richdirector

    NO …. but that isn’t the real
    NO …. but that isn’t the real Q. I don’t need ti bikes and a steel tourer or a garmin edge or a fenix for kitesurfing / running. Do we really need anything but the N+1 rules applies.
    Plotaroute.com sounds interesting though ….

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    edster99

    I’m with Phil. I also use
    I’m with Phil. I also use justgoride.co.uk to create routes, and sometimes bikeroutetoaster.com to convert to tcx where you get the turn warnings. Its great for tuesday night chaingangs to keep you on the route if you get dropped, or saturday morning bimbles where you want to explore new areas. Theres always the option of ‘return to start’. If you want maps built in, you need a 500/800. If you just want to be directed, a 200 is fantastic.

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    philtregear

    i use a garmin edge 200 ( now
    i use a garmin edge 200 ( now about £90) and ridewithgps to map rides. it is easy once you work it out. write the map on the website. save as a tcx. upload into ” new files” on the garmin. follow the arrow on your ride. the display also gives you warning of turns both audibly and visually ( although the beep can be late!), lets you know when you are off course and directs you back to the course, has a very small electronic compass indicating north, and divides your ride into 1/4s so you cab gauge your progress. i dont flick between screens, but you can analyse your ride afterwards- average speed etc, if you are interested in that sort of thing. battery life is good, enough for a whole days ride. display is visible in full sun. it comes with 2 mounts so you can swop between bikes. the only downside i have found is the garmin has a limited memory, meaning you cannot save multiple routes in it, eg if you were doing a trek/holiday. however, i would overcome this by taking a usb stick and cadging a pc connection overnight to charge the thing and put the new route on.

    i love this device. i have cycled all over cornwall, suffolk and norfolk using it.

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    Jack Osbourne snr

    I ride purely for pleasure
    I ride purely for pleasure (and commuting) and have a Garmin Etrex which I bought primarily for mapping on long distance rides. Whilst I’ll occasionally look at what a rides stats are during or at the end of the ride, its unusual for me to upload the data. Mine is therefore acting as both map and bike computer and does both very well. My Etrex leads a double life off the bike as a geocaching device to make sure the kids stop playing video games occasionally.

    Nobody needs one, but there are various reasons for getting one.

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    Shanefutcher

    You HAVE to get a garmin,its
    You HAVE to get a garmin,its a cycling must have

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    davecochrane

    I’m with Chadders here. The
    I’m with Chadders here. The Edge 800 has been great for me, and allowed me to find routes other people had blazed the trail for and then download and follow them. Great fun. I use OSM on mine which is free – and another nice feature, especially post injury, is that you can always rely on it showing you the quickest route home whenever you get sore or have had enough. I’m moving back to NZ soon, and although I know my local area reasonably well I’m anticipating a lot more possibilities this time around with the Edge. The battery life is a lot better than using your phone, and it’s fun to track your progress over time. I’ve got about 8 years of Garmin files now from all over the world to look back on – nice to have the maps to fit with the memories!

    đŸ˜€

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    chadders

    I bought a Garmin 800 last
    I bought a Garmin 800 last year and honestly think its the best thing I have bought for the bike. I like you rode blind before buying it but now using it has opened up many different options and keeps rides interesting as I tend to train/ ride alone being a shift worker.
    I now use several websites (strava, ride with GPS and plotaroute) and enter routes into the device which is very easy to do to be honest.
    Plotaroute.com allows you to put your start point and mileage in and will give you 10 routes of around the distance requested.
    Navigation is really easy to use so feel its a no brainer, go on buy one you wont be disappointed!!

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