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  • March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm #20992
    thre3aces

    Hi guys

    I was wondering what you guys think of entirely chinese branded bikes? I noticed one on aliexpress. The price and config seem ludicrous. Has anyone ever tired these? I have spoken to many people in China and they say that the reason why it’s so cheap is that the Chinese branding makes the bike much cheaper. But surely it would not make it only $50 new.

    Does anyone have their opinions/experiences about these sorts of bikes?

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-road-bike-disc-automobile-race-bicycle-aluminum-ring-sports-car-21/1676609358.html?tracelog=back_to_detail_a

    p.s I’m researching bikes for my friend who wants to buy a temp training bike before upgrading to a new road bike in the summer. I’m mainly looking at old steel bikes on gumtree but this particular bike caught my eye.

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  • March 22, 2014 at 10:13 pm #782021
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    bashthebox

    Thank you, Velonista, for
    Thank you, Velonista, for typing what I was about to.
    Of course I was wary of buying direct; I was worried about quality control, communication and service. Happy with all three – and extremely happy with the product thus far. Proof is in the riding of course, but that’s to come.
    Did the internal cable routing today, and despite reading up on it and learning that it would be nigh on impossible to do without major hair loss, I did it quite quickly. So from that, I’m going to conclude it’s a well designed and well thought out frame.
    Or it’s a cunning plot by those naughty Chinese people to lure me into thinking it’s a good frame.

    March 22, 2014 at 6:30 pm #782019
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    velonista

    thre3aces wrote:…Cheap

    thre3aces wrote:
    …Cheap carbon is always a danger zone…problem with genetic chinese wholesalers is that they simply don’t check their products thoroughly enough…

    On what are you basing your horror story? Chinese whispers don’t count. Unless you yourself have actual first-hand experience with “genetic chinese wholesalers” [sic], then you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    If you do know, then provide links to back up what you know. Otherwise, you’re just repeating some urban legend you heard from your third cousin’s friend’s next door neighbor over in Timbuktu who blogged about it that one time in 1999.

    March 22, 2014 at 5:38 pm #782017
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    Gordy748

    Almost all carbon frames are
    Almost all carbon frames are made in China/ Taiwan these days. Apparently Thailand is starting to beocome another manufacturing source.

    By almost all I mean NOT high-end Treks, Colnago C59/60, Time, Look, Calfee, Guru, Seven, IF, Formighli, Passoni, and other custom builds. Everything else, including Specialized, Pinarello, Canyon, Wilier, in fact every pro-tour team supplier, is Asian based.

    Pinarello, for example, order [N x 100’s] number of raw frames at $300 a pop. They respray and finish the bike in Italy and charge $3,200 for it. Because the Chinese component is less than 10% of the value of the total product, legally they can say it is made in Italy.

    There is an element of QC and guaranteed warranty associated with buying your Pinarello from the italians as opposed to from the Chinese. That said, the breakage rates of all carbon frames appears similar. It could be argued the lay-up of the Chinese versions is not correct so the genuine article is better, but I know a local Pinarello dealer who swears that most Pinerello copies are in fact the genuine article, just taken to a local paint shop to get finished.

    March 22, 2014 at 2:30 pm #782015
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    thre3aces

    Be wary my friend. Cheap
    Be wary my friend. Cheap carbon is always a danger zone. Yes you’re right. There probably aren’t defects on your model but to be honest problem with genetic chinese wholesalers is that they simply don’t check their products thoroughly enough. But good to hear you’ve had a good experience so far.

    The size thing may be an issue. But it does claim to have 700c wheels so it can’t be that small. But Yea, I wouldn’t expect anything more than cheap crap. But i guess cheap crap is enough for a temp bike

    March 21, 2014 at 10:27 am #782013
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    bashthebox

    I’ve just bought a Chinese
    I’ve just bought a Chinese frame, actually – will make a thread to document the built up when I’ve got a moment.
    I bought from a company called Hong Fu, and was pleasantly surprised by most stages of the process.
    What I’ve ended up with, for around $700 including paintwork and postage, is a frame that weighs 900g, forks that weight about 350g, carbon bars and carbon bottle cages. The paintwork is custom to my own design – they weren’t able to provide the exact colours I was after, but it’s pretty close and the paint looks great. Crisp and clean.
    Just starting the build now, but I can’t see any of the defects many people talk of – that of holes being painted over, misaligned hangers, etc.
    Dealt with a lady called Nancy whose English was great, and was helpful and responsive on her email.
    Really impressed so far, and can’t wait to get the build done and ride the beautiful thing.

    March 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm #782011
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    drfabulous0

    A mate of mine once asked me
    A mate of mine once asked me to help him with a £40 Chinese bike, immediately I noticed that the paintwork was horrendous, I have sprayed £1 black spray paint onto rusty handlebars and got better results. Before getting the frame into the stand I noticed that there was no way to attach the round seatpost to the teardrop shaped seat tube. Overlooking these two major defects the bike itself, which in fairness had been ordered as a “small” was in fact a tiny facsimile of a real bicycle, which could only have been ridden by a borrower. When he messaged the seller they ignored him, he eventually got his money back but it took months, this was on DHGate.

    March 20, 2014 at 10:02 pm #782009
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    dave atkinson

    i like the sound of this
    i like the sound of this Bicycle road bike disc automobile race bicycle aluminum ring sports car 21.

    March 20, 2014 at 7:41 pm #782007
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    thre3aces

    Well, truth be told poor
    Well, truth be told poor English and knock off designs are to be expected in my opinion. But at the end of the day. If it’s for someone who doesn’t ride seriously and only to be used as a temporary bike I’d say that it’s perhaps “acceptable”

    March 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm #782005
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    themartincox

    Blue and white, I want it in
    Blue and white, I want it in blue and white!

    And THAT is how you do a call to action!

    March 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm #782003
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    farrell

    It could be that the company
    It could be that the company involved is doing these so cheaply in order to get a reputation and feedback, using it as a loss leader before ramping the prices up.

    They could be scammers.

    The bikes could actually just be that cheap.

    £20 for the folding bikes. Madness.

    March 20, 2014 at 7:02 pm #782001
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    PJ McNally

    Please Road.cc buy one and
    Please Road.cc buy one and test it!

    I particularly like the look of that “Sihmano” cassette 😉

    March 20, 2014 at 6:55 pm #781999
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    farrell

    Its got an “apologetics chain
    Its got an “apologetics chain attached”. That’s a big selling point for me.

    March 20, 2014 at 6:02 pm #781997
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    Gkam84

    I have no idea, but at that
    I have no idea, but at that price Road.cc could buy one to test 😉

    Including postage, it comes in at £40

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