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  • March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm #20992
    thre3aces

    Hi guys

    I was wondering what you guys think of entirely chinese branded bikes? I noticed one on aliexpress. The price and config seem ludicrous. Has anyone ever tired these? I have spoken to many people in China and they say that the reason why it’s so cheap is that the Chinese branding makes the bike much cheaper. But surely it would not make it only $50 new.

    Does anyone have their opinions/experiences about these sorts of bikes?

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-road-bike-disc-automobile-race-bicycle-aluminum-ring-sports-car-21/1676609358.html?tracelog=back_to_detail_a

    p.s I’m researching bikes for my friend who wants to buy a temp training bike before upgrading to a new road bike in the summer. I’m mainly looking at old steel bikes on gumtree but this particular bike caught my eye.

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  • April 1, 2016 at 2:34 am #782081
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    Evey Chim

    Nowadays labor is no more

    Nowadays labor is no more cheap in China, if you find something is incredibly cheap, there should be something wrong. Every effort counts, if you really want better quality, you gotta pay more.  — Voice from a Chinese 

     

    July 8, 2014 at 11:16 pm #782079
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    DrSport

    Be aware, anything you import
    Be aware, anything you import from China worth over £15 could be seized by customs and held until you pay import duty and taxes to the value of the parcel again. That happend to me and I told them to send it back.

    http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation

    July 8, 2014 at 10:16 am #782077
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    dannycarr2k

    Have you had any experience
    Have you had any experience with manufacturing contacts in the Far East?

    The difference between the Taiwanese, Korean and Chinese mindsets is enormous.

    What you pay for when you buy through an established company is quality control and liability. Good luck with buying direct from the manufacturer…

    The Chinese will haggle and thrash out the details of a manufacturing contact with you in the room. The moment you leave the room they’ll be figuring out ways to cut costs. In shipping, the buyer puts a team in place to oversee the process to try to eliminate this. Koreans, by contrast, will industriously get on with building you exactly what you’ve agreed by the exact date you’ve agreed.

    Make your decisions yourself. I’d not ride a carbon frame from a company who I couldn’t hold liable for any injury through manufacturing defects. Plus, there are some fantastic aluminium frames at a fraction of the cost of carbon and they’ll deliver a great ride.

    Ethically, I also want to see the industry advance and companies that invest in design and innovation deserve your custom. If you want the industry to revert to a handful of open mould designs with no quality assurance standards, crack on. Likewise, if you only want to buy cut price imports, then the long term effect is we import the lifestyles of the countries we buy from as we watch jobs outsourced. Ethical lecture over.

    Why go cut price carbon? It’s a mug’s game.

    July 8, 2014 at 9:52 am #782075
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    Paul J

    Planet-X at least got
    Planet-X at least got themselves established by buying chinese open mould frames. Don’t know if that’s still the case, but it was true even just a few years ago.

    July 8, 2014 at 8:32 am #782073
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    colinth

    I looked at getting a Chinese
    I looked at getting a Chinese frame a couple of years ago, there are a few more established factories that sell direct, and communication I had with them was good. Some research I did showed a few people having to return frames for mostly cosmetic problems, but receiving good customer service.

    In the end I decided the saving just wasn’t worth it when compared to what you can get from the likes of PX. I paid probably an additional £150 to PX for my frame, but decided that was worth it for some peace of mind and assurance on the quality.

    Each to their own but I don’t think the risk / reward is really worth it

    July 8, 2014 at 12:01 am #782071
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    Joeinpoole

    tomo3519 wrote:Hi, first post

    tomo3519 wrote:
    Hi, first post on here. Regarding Chinese carbon frames ect ect . I have built 4 bikes in total now. When building my first I was extremely nervous and thinking about how poor the service and quality of the product could be. However, when a friend (who lives in china however is british) explained to me how it actually works I had no doubts. Basically the big brands work with the asian, Chinese, Thai OEM whoever it will be and they will make there own moulds. The OEM can’t use that mould to sell bikes from there own company bedcause of copyrights or watever it is, however the OEM make there own moulds and use the exact same carbon and materials, and its the exact same men/women making the frames. So for the people who are worried about the bike breaking ect , it has just as much chance as a big brand make. That’s when warranty comes in, there is a few sites and OEM that give 2 years warranty, the only problem you will have is it might take awhile due to the fact you will have to post the bike to the other side of the world rather then pop down your local bike shop. With the right tools and knowledge you can easily build a bike for around £2000 which has the same performance as a £6000 bike from a shop plus you can add your own custom design ect and its a one off.

    Ok but it’s *their* own moulds … not “there”. You made that mistake 3x in the same sentence.

    July 7, 2014 at 10:04 pm #782069
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    tomo3519

    Hi, first post on here.
    Hi, first post on here. Regarding Chinese carbon frames ect ect . I have built 4 bikes in total now. When building my first I was extremely nervous and thinking about how poor the service and quality of the product could be. However, when a friend (who lives in china however is british) explained to me how it actually works I had no doubts. Basically the big brands work with the asian, Chinese, Thai OEM whoever it will be and they will make there own moulds. The OEM can’t use that mould to sell bikes from there own company bedcause of copyrights or watever it is, however the OEM make there own moulds and use the exact same carbon and materials, and its the exact same men/women making the frames. So for the people who are worried about the bike breaking ect , it has just as much chance as a big brand make. That’s when warranty comes in, there is a few sites and OEM that give 2 years warranty, the only problem you will have is it might take awhile due to the fact you will have to post the bike to the other side of the world rather then pop down your local bike shop. With the right tools and knowledge you can easily build a bike for around £2000 which has the same performance as a £6000 bike from a shop plus you can add your own custom design ect and its a one off.

    April 5, 2014 at 4:29 am #782067
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    narcissus

    I also have experience,I
    I also have experience,I bought a wheelset from a website “diy carbon bike” , total take me 10 days to receive the wheelset , the wheelset has not quality problems,I think I was lucky .

    April 4, 2014 at 7:19 pm #782065
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    thre3aces

    Scoob_84 wrote:Can I
    [quote=Scoob_84]Can I seriously buy a Dogma frame for £320???

    Has anyone here bought something like this from this website and received the product as spec’d?

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-design-2013-3K-Pinarello-Carbon-Frame-Road-DI2-Think2-full-carbon-frame-Orange-Black-Glossy/1619163612.html%5B/quote%5D

    Well that’s hopefully what someone here can answer. Truth be told. You’d think that it’s crazy getting a dogma frame for so little. But as someone earlier in the comments said. They don’t cost much to manufacture so some people have got the real deal.

    April 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm #782063
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    Scoob_84

    Can I seriously buy a Dogma
    Can I seriously buy a Dogma frame for £320???

    Has anyone here bought something like this from this website and received the product as spec’d?

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-design-2013-3K-Pinarello-Carbon-Frame-Road-DI2-Think2-full-carbon-frame-Orange-Black-Glossy/1619163612.html

    April 2, 2014 at 12:26 pm #782061
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    Scoob_84

    This aliexpress is nuts!
    This aliexpress is nuts! never seen this before, its practically like buying stuff for free.

    Thinking about buying this to bore youtube viewers with my daily commute.

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sport-camera-Helmet-Waterproof-Action-Camera-DVR-Camcorder-Driving-Recorder-For-Bike-Diving-Surfing-Ski-Skydiving/907769285.html

    April 2, 2014 at 10:06 am #782059
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    farrell

    I’m spending too much of my
    I’m spending too much of my life looking at what bikes you can get imported from China now. I think it’s becoming an addiction.

    This simply can not be legit, in anyway shape or form:

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Giant-xtc-26-fr-2013-777-giant-mountain-bike-pk-duke/1745867420.html

    April 2, 2014 at 7:03 am #782057
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    Travis

    If they are only testing 1 in
    If they are only testing 1 in 50, that could be below the standard requirement.
    Saying that, that could be for an order of between 151 – 3201 pieces.
    Also, if it’s 1 in every 50, it’s not random, and works against the process of Inspection.

    April 1, 2014 at 11:42 am #782055
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    farrell

    Dave Atkinson wrote:they’ve
    [quote=Dave Atkinson]they’ve sold out. i’m eyeing up one of these for £36 shipped though 😉

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Luxury-2014-jade-dragon-tricycle-old-age-scooter-casual-car-bike-exercise-bike/1726507438.html%5B/quote%5D

    Seriously, do it – A review of that would be brilliant!

    April 1, 2014 at 10:46 am #782053
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    dave atkinson

    they’ve sold out. i’m eyeing
    they’ve sold out. i’m eyeing up one of these for £36 shipped though 😉

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Luxury-2014-jade-dragon-tricycle-old-age-scooter-casual-car-bike-exercise-bike/1726507438.html

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