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Specialized Sue Tiny Shop over ridiculous copyright

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  • December 8, 2013 at 11:05 am #765295
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    crazy-legs

    peakingintwomonths

    peakingintwomonths wrote:

    Can’t defend the indefensible – basically it is American corporate greed and bullying the little guy. I’m not a big Specialised fan anyway, but will avoid them now.

    Wasn’t defending what they were doing at all, simply stating the facts of trademark infringement as it applies in US law. As I said, its a bonkers system that simply keeps lawyers in business. 🙁

    December 8, 2013 at 10:23 am #765293
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    peakingintwomonths

    Crazy legs wrote:
    “Firstly,
    Crazy legs wrote:
    “Firstly, the trademark only applies in the US (which is why Endura can happily name their jacket “Roubaix” without any problems)”
    “secondly, under US law, you have to defend that trademark. So if they don’t defend it, they’re in breach of their trademark agreement.”

    Firstly, Cochrane (where this bike shop is located) is in Canada. Don’t think the US owns that yet.

    Secondly, I’m not a US patent lawyer but I have read some of the comments below the article in the link. To quote one “Specialized’s lawyer is full of crap. They don’t have to sue. They can sign a trademark coexistence agreement.”

    Can’t defend the indefensible – basically it is American corporate greed and bullying the little guy. I’m not a big Specialised fan anyway, but will avoid them now.

    December 8, 2013 at 9:52 am #765291
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    FluffyKittenofTindalos

    I’m particularly annoyed as I
    I’m particularly annoyed as I recently attempted to purchase a region of France as a holiday home – imagine my disappointment when I ended up with a road bike.

    December 8, 2013 at 9:46 am #765289
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    Flying Scot

    Idiots, I could see their
    Idiots, I could see their point if the guy was using their font, but surely one may name their shop after the most famous of the one day classics…….who would name their shop after a mass produced comfort orientated plastic frame…….

    I will avoid any of their kit in future, not that I’m a big customer anyway.

    Feel free to visit my strip club….Sinelli….

    December 8, 2013 at 8:24 am #765287
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    crazy-legs

    Jimmy Ray Will

    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

    Tomorrow’s club run will be fun, as one of our group is a total spec uber fan. He’ll have some argument for why specialized are the hero in this.

    Problem is more the broken system that allows a company to trademark the name of a Northern French town. Firstly, the trademark only applies in the US (which is why Endura can happily name their jacket “Roubaix” without any problems) but secondly, under US law, you have to defend that trademark.

    So if they don’t defend it, they’re in breach of their trademark agreement. Bonkers system. It’s not just Specialized, this kind of thing goes on all the time in corporate world.

    Edit: I should add that, also under US law, when you set up a company/shop etc, you’re supposed to check that no part of your company/shop name is trademarked. But basically all this does is allow lawyers on all sides to line their pockets. Just a bit of a rubbish system.

    Anyone remember the similar stories reported at the time of the Olympics with one cafe famously told to stop serving its “Olympic Breakfast”? Same principle.

    December 8, 2013 at 7:25 am #765285
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    Argos74

    I can see this article being
    I can see this article being added as a comment to any and all future reviews of Specialised products. They may do decent bikes, but things like this are free advertising for their competitors.

    December 7, 2013 at 11:21 pm #765283
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    Jimmy Ray Will

    I would certainly confirm
    I would certainly confirm that my opinion has been unsalvagably lowered. Won’t Be rushing to buy a specialized any time soon.
    Tomorrow’s club run will be fun, as one of our group is a total spec uber fan. He’ll have some argument for why specialized are the hero in this.

    December 7, 2013 at 11:15 pm #765281
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    bashthebox

    Fuck em. I think the most
    Fuck em. I think the most I’ve bought from them in the past is bar tape – though my ex had an allez – but that’s the last they’ll get from me. They can issue the most heartfelt apology and it still won’t count for anything.

    OH BOLLOCKS I’ve just remembered I use a Spesh Toupe for my saddle. BOLLOCKS.
    What’s like a Toupe but isn’t Spesh?

    December 7, 2013 at 10:15 pm #765279
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    Simon E

    Unnecessary show of corporate
    Unnecessary show of corporate muscle, this will do them no favours.

    But Specialized have a history of this kind of aggression.

    December 7, 2013 at 10:15 pm #765277
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    Goldfever4

    I think he would have lost
    I think he would have lost the case (Depends on the Canadian legal system), but in my mind, anyone who associates ‘Roubaix’ with Specialized is going to know enough about cycling to also know about Paris-Roubaix as well, and thereby won’t confuse the LBS with Specialized…

    December 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm #765275
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    Tuvelo

    They don’t need to get to
    They don’t need to get to court, they know that the LBS can’t afford to risk it, that’s how corporate bullies work.

    December 7, 2013 at 10:00 pm #765273
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    allez neg

    I like Specialized rather
    I like Specialized rather less now than I did before. What a cunch they are.

    December 7, 2013 at 9:59 pm #765271
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    Tuvelo

    The bike shop has a message
    The bike shop has a message of support on their FB page from Greg Lemond, who knows how it feels to be bullied by big bike companies.

    December 7, 2013 at 7:54 pm #765269
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    Neil753

    Good luck to the fella. I
    Good luck to the fella. I hope all the publicty does his business a power of good.

    December 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm #765267
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    Simon_MacMichael

    “Also no sign of road.cc
    “Also no sign of road.cc reporting this. Agenda?”

    Other than finding it difficult to write two articles simultaneously, no 😉

    We were aware of it and it’s on the news list to do, but it’s always good that people flag things up in the forum, so thanks.

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