[bikercat]

I have seen a very cheap Garmin Cannondale Varia Rear View Radar Unit and wondered whether it could be fitted to a non Cannondale smart sense bike while being run off a power bank, not the official and expensive Cannondale battery. It would be used in conjunction with a Garmin 130.

appreciate any tech help with this.

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[mc20158]

I purchased the CP2502U10OS

I purchased the CP2502U10OS Cannondale Smartsense wire kit.  Used the the exact same wire color combo from the picture above.  3D printed the bracket and everything is 100% working including the audbile warning.

[BikxForLikx]

Hey CadCam, where did you get

Hey CadCam, where did you get the connector from? It seems the original links are no longer working?

[Cadcam]

Just wanted to share a quick

Just wanted to share a quick thank you to everyone who helped out in this thread.

 

I was able to get the Garmin radar fully working on my Cannondale Synapse. It’s now properly detected in both the Cannondale app and on my Garmin head unit, and everything appears to be functioning as expected.

 

Since the Hindsite bracket was out of stock near me and shipping was going to take over a week, I ended up designing and printing my own mount. I’ve included a link to an album below showing the radar detected as well as the print details, including a downloadable STL file if anyone else wants to use it.

https://imgur.com/a/Ngvl58l

https://www.printables.com/model/1254137-garmin-varia-hindsite-bracket-3d-printable

 

Hopefully this helps someone else down the line looking to do the same thing!

[Creakingcrank]

Hi, I don’t think this will

Hi, I don’t think this will work. The Cannondale RDU connects to the Cannondale version of the radar via a wired (CANbus) connection. The Garmin RDU uses wireless (ANT+?). The standard Varia does not have CANbus capability. Newer Varia models have Bluetooth too, so you can use a phone instead of a bike computer as the head unit. In your position, I’d just stick with what you have. The Garmin RDU is a simple thing and I would expect it to last a long time. By the time it breaks there may be all sorts of new radar devices on the market.

[manmikey]

Would you mind confirming if
Would you mind confirming if the Canondale RDU works with a Garmin Varia radar?
I use a Garmin RDU which I fear will fail at some point in the future and I can’t get a replacement (I don’t want a cycling computer if I can help it)
I recently bought the Canondale RDU for £10 in the hope I could power it from the 12v light supply on my ebike and it would pair with my Garmin radar.

Is this use case feasible from anyone’s experience.on this thread?

Thank
Mike

[avogrin]

I cut the two wires in excess

I cut the two wires in excess. Maybe there is some current in them so isolate them after cutting.

Connector: https://shop.e-bike-technologies.de/en/connectors/signal/micro/higo-micro-q/higo-s6-mq-detail

I solderer the wires together, then individual heatshrink followed by an overall one.

For display I use a Magene C606, so Garmin Edge should work no problem.

[OldSlowBloke]

Nice work.
Nice work.
Was halfway through doing the same, but some questions mights save some trial and error.
I take it you didn’t need to do anything with the yellow and green from the micro d connector?
What cable connectors did you use? Thet look very tidy.

I presume you weren’t bothered about the eRDU on sale from the same retailer? I plan to use a garmin head unit, when complete.
Thanks for the update.

[avogrin]

Finished product, total cost

Finished product, total cost 40€.

[avogrin]

So, success.

So, success.

It is working on 2023 Synapse 2 LE and paired to a Magene C606.

 

[avogrin]

Thanks!

Thanks!

[Creakingcrank]

I’m not sure of the pinoouts,

I’m not sure of the pinouts, but assuming the wiring colours on those Higo connectors are standard (it certainly seemed logical on the ones I bought), it is:

Red: voltage + (4-12v)
Black: ground
Yellow/blue: CAN high/CAN low (not sure which is which, just wire same to same)

I tested mine with a 9v battery on the display unit – connect to the correct power wires and the light on the unit comes on. The two wires you haven’t used are the CANbus.

[avogrin]

Hi, could you share the

Hi, could you share the pinout of the connectors or wire meanings? I will try to wire the Higo-B6-MQ connector. Thanks.

[bikercat]

Mnay thanks for the very full

Mnay thanks for the very full explaination, Creakingcrank, will give it a go.

[Creakingcrank]

I have done exactly what you

I have done exactly what you describe, presumably with parts from the same  retailer. Mine went on my ebike. 

Short answer: Not as you hope. The Cannondale version of the radar does not have the Bluetooth/ANT radio parts in it – they are in the (expensive) battery cradle, so it would not communicate with your head unit.

You can use a wired connection to the Cannondale/garmin radar display unit (also selling for cheap on the same site). mine works perfectly as a visual indicator, but does not beep.

It requires some DIY wiring to add power (I think the unit will cope with anything from 4 to 12V – mine is wired into my ebike 12v lighting circuit) and to connect the 2 CANbus wires between the head unit and the radar.

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