Best camera for a lazy and tight-fisted IT numpty

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    JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

    I know there will be other threads but I figure the tech keeps moving so I would put a new one. Kick me if this is rude.

    After being on the receiving end of more needless shitty driving this morning, I think I’m asking Santa for a camera this Xmas. It needs to be easy to use and reasonably priced.

    If I do send to the police it will usually be Thames Valley though I am tempted to go and find the bell-ends and give them the chance to respond to the footage first (the worst behaviour is almost certainly from people close to home). Therefore I need to catch ghe plate and preferably the face of the driver.

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  • #1007099
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    wtjs

    you can pull Strava data into

    you can pull Strava data into the Cycliq app for putting gps into videos

    Waste of time and won’t be believed- phone linking doubts etc. Has to be native in the camera. It works really well on the Hero7 Black- speedo readings very similar to non-GPS cycle computer

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    NOtotheEU

    I do the same. I only use the

    I do the same. I only use the wifi to run two cams in master/slave mode so the front cam controls both and settings are duplicated.

    #1007095
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    Awavey

    you can pull Strava data into

    you can pull Strava data into the Cycliq app for putting gps into videos ,but Ive never bothered so dont know how useful it looks in the edit.

    the Gopro software or lack of it, always put me off, plus my gopro hero was no good on battery and wasnt reliable enough, plus a pita to take off/reattach to the bike all the time.

    Cycliqs seem good on battery, but is flawed with its lens being way too easy to scratch, and the earlier models were prone to water ingress, that theyve since produced accessories to solve both is sort of admission of that.

    theres a new version of the 12CE out Im surprised there havent been more reviews of it yet online.

    Ive also tried the kind of cheaper end and theyre adequate but you do lose out on usability and image quality compared to the more expensive ones imo

    #1007093
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    IanMSpencer

    WiFi does not seem to be

    WiFi does not seem to be reliable enough to transfer a video without failing on these internal wifi transmitter server type devices. Never worked on whatever Fly12 used, and never has worked on the Ghost XL. Sneakernet* works every time.

     

    *Back in the early days of local area networks, sane people wrote things to a floppy disk and walked across the room rather than waiting a couple of weeks for the network to transfer a file over 50KB.

    #1007091
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    wtjs

    And this is night plate

    And this is night plate capture, accomplished with Aldi front light on constant setting 2 out of 4, angled right. You don’t get them all! (no fault committed by this driver)

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/NightPlateCapture-16Oct22.jpg

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    wtjs

    And this is the driver at

    And this is the driver at Sainsbury’s cash machine, showing a common feature of combining GoPro and the ubiquitous white car beloved of offenders. However, you generally can get a frame or two with legible plate straight out of the camera, and it’s easy to correct any individual image in Windows anyway. Mostly, all plates are detected even on the other side of the road

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/ClosePassSeat-15Oct22-0006.jpg

    #1007087
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    wtjs

    Problem with GoPro is the PC

    Problem with GoPro is the PC software which is really unpredictable and you can’t get it to load until another day- this is because it hasn’t been supported for years. The phone app is no substitute. None but the Hero7 Black have GPS, which is essential for me, but nobody seems to be mentioning this feature. My guess is that none of these other common cameras have GPS. This is white Seat Ibiza PK15 PCY performing really close passing and illegal crossing of double white lines at the same time

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/ClosePassSeat-15Oct22-0001.jpg

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    Oldfatgit

    Cycliq Fly 12 and Fly 6 …
    Cycliq Fly 12 and Fly 6 … every time.

    I’ve had both of mine for around 3 and a half years and not had any issues.
    I’ve a Fly 12CE … Great camera. Good battery life in camera mode (not bothered about running light + camera); fantastic image stabilisation in all modes except for HDR (and who needs that anyway), and easy to use.
    May struggle in low light and complete darkness, but then you’re up against camera physics.
    It will continue recording upto 30 mins after it detects an incident (and incident detection is thankfully less sensitive than Garmin…)
    Fly 6 gen 2 on the back; only grumbles I have is that it records in .avi format, and the charging / card port has a little rubber cover that eventually detaches. It took best part of 3 years for mine to come off though, and it doesn’t affect the operation of the camera at all.
    Computer software provided is one step away from being pants… and not in a good direction either. I don’t think I’ve ever been able to get the Strava data tie-in to work.
    If you want to put telemetry data on your video, get hold of something like Dashware.

    I like them so much that I’ve just ordered the new 12 and 6, and am waiting for delivery.

    If you want to be bored out your head … but so swe how the Fly12 CE behaves on road and gravel, you can find plenty of examples on my channel… https://youtube.com/channel/UCsfBOmOh2FrA5Jm7__8yAxA

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    Velo-drone

    Teentok rear light/camera is

    Teentok rear light/camera is v good at about half the Cycliq cost.

    Seems to have now been bought up by Techalogic – as far as I can tell it’s an identical device, with a slightly better mount and a slightly higher cost.  But I thoroughly recommend, much prefer it to the Cycliq actually – better stability, better app (not intuitive – but once you know what you’re doing it works very well, unlike the Cycliq app which never worked reliably) – and much better battery life.

    #1007081
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    Velo-drone

    V similar experience with

    V similar experience with Cycliqs – won’t touch them again.

    IMHO anything that relies on a rubber port cover for an outdoor device and then attempts to blame water ingress on ‘user error’ is a straight out scam. 

    Ghost XL battery is great – but image quality is so-so.  Sometimes struggles with numberplates, you’d be lucky to get a good view of a driver face with it.

    Basically a 2nd hand GoPro is the best bet.  With image stabilisation, even their HD versions are pretty good.   

    #1007079
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    mark1a

    Nothing edited in post on

    Nothing edited in post on that, straight out of the unit. The overlay can be configured to use time/date, GPS position, speed. All set by the head unit, so it’s switch on and go. 

    Ref quality, the previous grab didn’t show the vehicle plate for obvious reasons, here’s another grab showing the clarity of number plates. I saved this clip while pulling out of a segregated bike lane to go around a parked car.

     

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/rct715image.jpg

    #1007077
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    Hirsute

    On the drift ghost, I just

    On the drift ghost, I just take the card out and plug it into the pc. Most sd cards you buy come with a card holder to plug into usb, so I rarely use wifi.

    #1007075
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    Hirsute

    It’s ok, you don’t have to

    It’s ok, you don’t have to convince me that you were subject of really poor driving !!

    I found the reg

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/24/made

     

     

    #1007073
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    HoarseMann

    Image quality on the Garmin

    Image quality on the Garmin looks good, but I really like the time/location/speed overlay on the video. Have you added that in post or does the 715 get all that data streamed live from the head unit?

    If so, that’s another big advantage. Just having accurate time is a big plus, as the clock drift on the Cycliqs can be quite noticeable.

    #1007071
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    NOtotheEU

    They aren’t cheap and friends

    They aren’t cheap and friends more expensive GoPro’s give much better video/sound quality but I run two Drift Ghost XLs on my bikes (great QR brackets makes swapping easy) and I’ve just bought a Techalogic DC-1 Dual Lens Camera for my helmet.

    The XLs probably aren’t suited for a lazy and tight-fisted IT numpty. They give 9 hours battery life, link by wifi so you only touch the front one to control both and don’t look like GoPros. Sadly the sound quality is terrible, the menu screen is tiny and you’ll pay twice as much for the stabalized 4K version with half the battery life.

    The DC-1 might be better suited. It lasts 2.5 hours, is light, records front and back and is one touch to turn on/start recording with strong vibration to let you know its on. Again the sound is terrible unless you like wind noise however you could charge it, mount it, press on and you’ll be recording right away with no setup. You’ll still want to adjust it to get the right shot and maybe mess with the settings but that’s easy with the mobile app.

     

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