[brooksby]

Did anyone see this story?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/10/parents-victim-statement-edited-to-spare-feelings-of-driver-who-killed-child?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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[kil0ran]

quiff wrote:

kil0ran wrote:

I see that the result of the parliamentary debate was “meh, we don’t care enough to make a change”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/236952

To be fair, the parliamentary debate showed that a number of MPs care very greatly and there is cross-party support for increasing the maximum sentence for death by dangerous driving, but the government doesn’t have the legislative bandwidth to do much but Brexit.

The debate made it clear that the removal of the maximum sentence for offences is a simple piece of legislation to pass – a single clause bill was mentioned. That would be better than kicking it into the weeds. Whilst I find it reprehensible that drivers who kill multiple victims “kill one, get one free” that’s not going to change any time soon.

My long-standing view is that we need escalating sentencing for driving whilst disqualified (or unlicensed). All offences where injury has occured should result in a three-year ban with an extended retest following mandatory retraining, and if you’re found driving whilst DQ you go to jail for the length of the ban. I think that would be a much bigger deterrent than a possible life sentence.

[quiff]

kil0ran wrote:

I see that the result of the parliamentary debate was “meh, we don’t care enough to make a change”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/236952

To be fair, the parliamentary debate showed that a number of MPs care very greatly and there is cross-party support for increasing the maximum sentence for death by dangerous driving, but the government doesn’t have the legislative bandwidth to do much but Brexit.

[kil0ran]

I see that the result of the

I see that the result of the parliamentary debate was “meh, we don’t care enough to make a change”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/236952

[kil0ran]

I wonder if he’ll get the

I wonder if he’ll get the usual treatment in prison doled out to child-killers?

[David9694]

It would be nice to think

It would be nice to think that the motorist / empathy / “we all make mistakes” thing might reduce once he offender is found to be doing over 50 in a 30.

In terms of defmaation, court proceedings (and an accurate report thereof) are the same as Parliament – absolute privilege applies. 

A tragic case.  One, I’m sorry to say, of a string past and present.  Each one is news, then falls away, lost in wider scheme of things.  A way needs to be found to counteract this.

[Hirsute]

Luca Patrono wrote:

Luca Patrono wrote:

Is there any effective way to fight back against the lenience shown towards motor criminals?

Paving slabs from bridges ?

[Luca Patrono]

As usual, the best mitigating
As usual, the best mitigating factor a person can have when being tried for causing death is to have been using a car at the time. Nice to see that it now works to shield scum who blast down residental streets in stolen vehicles at nearly triple the speed limit from having to suffer the guilt they deserve. I expect there is no such respite available for the little girl’s family.

What a joke. Sadly, though, outrage here won’t change anything. Is there any effective way to fight back against the lenience shown towards motor criminals?

[srchar]

Apparently, the statement

Apparently, the statement contained graphic descriptions of the horrific injuries Violet-Grace suffered, of her last moments before her death, and how she looked before she was buried.

I see no reason why the arsehole who killed her should be shielded from it. Her parents weren’t.

[hawkinspeter]

Rick_Rude wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Rick_Rude wrote:

Read Road.cc – end up with anger issues again.

The best way of dealing with anger issues is to go for a bike ride.

and hopefully not get run-over. Riding home soon via a Mcdonalds (always a danger point of chav mobiles). Wish  me luck.

Good luck!

I find fish’n’chip shops to be worse for random parking/pulling out and general not looking around before maneuvering.

[Rick_Rude]

hawkinspeter wrote:

Rick_Rude wrote:

Read Road.cc – end up with anger issues again.

The best way of dealing with anger issues is to go for a bike ride.

and hopefully not get run-over. Riding home soon via a Mcdonalds (always a danger point of chav mobiles). Wish  me luck.

[PRSboy]

Aidan McAteer should have

Aidan McAteer should have been made to read it aloud himself, to the media.  And then read it aloud, every morning, as he begins his day in prison.

He needs to relive the accident in his mind every waking hour of the rest of his life, and wonder what poor little Violet-Grace would have been doing at this very moment had he not killed her.  As does anyone else who thinks driving at 83 in a 30 is big or clever.

[hawkinspeter]

Rick_Rude wrote:

Read Road.cc – end up with anger issues again.

The best way of dealing with anger issues is to go for a bike ride.

[Rick_Rude]

Read Road.cc – end up with

Read Road.cc – end up with anger issues again.

[Dingaling]

Is there really anything

Is there really anything libellous that can be said about somebody that drives at 83 mph in a 30 limit in a stolen car and kills somebody? Not in my book there isn’t. Reading the report I couldn’t stop myself thinking that it is time for people to exact revenge on these arseholes until the government/justice system wakes up to the fact that protection of the guilty has gone too far. 

Remember when a mother of one of the moors murderers victims said she would kill Hindley if they let her out. The authorities dropped the idea and never dared let her out! Need more people like her. 

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

It doesn’t appear to have been libellous as other reports only mention it being ‘upsetting’ to the defendant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48915189

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/violet-graces-grieving-dad-shares-16571787

And that would be “upsetting” to someone who actually left the scene, then tried to leave the country before being caught and facing the court.  Personally, I wonder if they called him a cowardly so-and-so?

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