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Don’t upset the motorists! (Guardian article)

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  • July 12, 2019 at 11:11 am #945907
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    hawkinspeter

    It doesn’t appear to have

    It doesn’t appear to have been libellous as other reports only mention it being ‘upsetting’ to the defendant.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48915189

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/violet-graces-grieving-dad-shares-16571787

    July 12, 2019 at 10:51 am #945905
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    Hirsute

    “seems unlikely”
    “seems unlikely”
    but the whole scenario of a judge making such a ruling is unlikely, regardless of the correctness.

    July 12, 2019 at 10:33 am #945903
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    hawkinspeter

    hirsute wrote:

    hirsute wrote:
    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Is there any restriction on publishing the full statement in the national press. Even if it has to be re-written word for word as a non court document?
    Was it libellous, made unfounded accusations? As is the case with these sorts of headlines, there is never enough detail for those not there to make a judgement.

    As the perp was being sentenced, I can’t think that it would be libellous (unless it was a completely irrelevant rant, but that seems unlikely).

    July 12, 2019 at 10:27 am #945901
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    Hirsute

    Mungecrundle wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Is there any restriction on publishing the full statement in the national press. Even if it has to be re-written word for word as a non court document?
    Was it libellous, made unfounded accusations?

    As is the case with these sorts of headlines, there is never enough detail for those not there to make a judgement.

    July 12, 2019 at 10:05 am #945899
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    quiff

    Mungecrundle wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Is there any restriction on publishing the full statement in the national press. Even if it has to be re-written word for word as a non court document?

    Exactly what I was thinking

    July 12, 2019 at 9:30 am #945897
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    Mungecrundle

    Is there any restriction on
    Is there any restriction on publishing the full statement in the national press. Even if it has to be re-written word for word as a non court document?

    July 12, 2019 at 8:59 am #945895
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    peted76

    That is so wrong and so sad,

    That is so wrong and so sad, that poor family.

    July 12, 2019 at 5:44 am #945893
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    FluffyKittenofTindalos

    The article mentions it has

    The article mentions it has happened in two other cases, I’d be curious to know what kind of offenses they involved.

    I don’t believe it’s coincidental that this issue came up with a motoring offense.  I suspect it’s another symptom of how many in the justice system instinctively identify with the perpetrators in such cases – in a way they are much less prone to with other forms of crime.

     

    July 11, 2019 at 11:14 pm #945891
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    hawkinspeter

    Nope, I didn’t.

    Nope, I didn’t.

    That’s quite abhorrent to me – surely part of justice is giving a voice to the injured parties, not censoring them to protect the guilty from the consequences of their own actions.

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