[hawkinspeter]

I’m currently running a pair of Schwalbe Pro-Ones and find them a bit slippery on wet roads (and they’re not new, so I have run them in).

With winter around the corner, I’m looking to get some 28mm tubeless tyres that are more confidence inspiring. Any recommendations?

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[staffo]

Aminthule wrote:

I’ve just bought a set of Hutchinson Sector 28 tyres to run tube less and asked my local bike shop to fit them for me. The first tyre has gone on fine and snapped straight into the rim bead, however it will not maintain pressure and when tested with soapy water the mechanics have found that the tyre is leaking heavily from the side wall, especially along what appears to be the join between the side wall and the siped tread part of the tyre. The tyre has lost around 50% of the initial 80psi in around 6 hours, so pretty impractical. Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

I had a similar problem with my Sector 28 rear tyre though not quite so bad. It was losing around 20 psi a day. After a month it stopped, I guess the sealant took a while to fully seal the tyre.

I would ride it for a couple of hours, pump it back up to 80 psi and see how much pressure you lose over the next few hours or the next morning. 

[Johnnyvee]

I’ve put 32mm Sectors on my
I’ve put 32mm Sectors on my bike and very pleased with them. See wiggle has them back in stock. They went on easy and have stayed up.
Good grip on last couple of club runs.

[hawkinspeter]

I’ve just had a hell of a

I’ve just had a hell of a time getting the IRCs 28mm to seal on my back wheel (I’d bought them over a month ago, but have been waiting for my Schwalbes to wear out).

I tried a few tricks – seat one bead by fitting an inner tube, inflating and removing it. I was trying to get it to seat with a track pump and also a Beto tubeless canister and had no luck at all. I then thought I’d try a Milkit valve/tubeless kit to see if that made a difference and fitted it this morning.

A few hours later and still no luck at all.

Then, I thought I’d supplement the rim sealing tape (original tape supplied on the wheels) with some Gorilla tape (you can rip it to the desired width). Fitted that and re-fitted the Milkit valve. Then, I just tried the track pump and watched in disbelief as the tyre seated itself without even any sealant being added.

So, the moral of the story is to check your rim tape.

[Spangly Shiny]

Miller wrote:

Aminthule wrote:

I’ve just bought a set of Hutchinson Sector 28 tyres to run tube less and asked my local bike shop to fit them for me. The first tyre has gone on fine and snapped straight into the rim bead, however it will not maintain pressure and when tested with soapy water the mechanics have found that the tyre is leaking heavily from the side wall, especially along what appears to be the join between the side wall and the siped tread part of the tyre. The tyre has lost around 50% of the initial 80psi in around 6 hours, so pretty impractical. Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

Assuming they’re full of sealant – they are, aren’t they? – try pumping them back up to pressure again. Tubeless sometimes needs a few days to settle down. Btw 80psi is a bit high for 28mm tubeless in my opinion, they’ll be fine at 50-70psi.

You’d do well to get to grips with fitting tubeless yourself. It’s not difficult, just different to what you might be used to. Generally I can get tubeless to seat with just a track pump so you don’t necessarily have to invest in fancy chargers or whatever.

 

 

Also ensure that you inflate them initially to the upper limit of the tyre to make sure they seat properly, then reduce the pressure for comfort. On 28’s I would be trying 50PSI on the front and 65PSI on the back on a combined rider/bike weight of 91kg.

[Miller]

Aminthule wrote:

I’ve just bought a set of Hutchinson Sector 28 tyres to run tube less and asked my local bike shop to fit them for me. The first tyre has gone on fine and snapped straight into the rim bead, however it will not maintain pressure and when tested with soapy water the mechanics have found that the tyre is leaking heavily from the side wall, especially along what appears to be the join between the side wall and the siped tread part of the tyre. The tyre has lost around 50% of the initial 80psi in around 6 hours, so pretty impractical. Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

Assuming they’re full of sealant – they are, aren’t they? – try pumping them back up to pressure again. Tubeless sometimes needs a few days to settle down. Btw 80psi is a bit high for 28mm tubeless in my opinion, they’ll be fine at 50-70psi.

You’d do well to get to grips with fitting tubeless yourself. It’s not difficult, just different to what you might be used to. Generally I can get tubeless to seat with just a track pump so you don’t necessarily have to invest in fancy chargers or whatever.

 

 

[CXR94Di2]

Sorry only ever used schwalbe
Sorry only ever used schwalbe for tubeless, been perfect once installed correctly by me, correcting wheel builders poor rim tape installation

[Aminthule]

I’ve just bought a set of

I’ve just bought a set of Hutchinson Sector 28 tyres to run tube less and asked my local bike shop to fit them for me. The first tyre has gone on fine and snapped straight into the rim bead, however it will not maintain pressure and when tested with soapy water the mechanics have found that the tyre is leaking heavily from the side wall, especially along what appears to be the join between the side wall and the siped tread part of the tyre. The tyre has lost around 50% of the initial 80psi in around 6 hours, so pretty impractical. Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

[hawkinspeter]

@gunswick – you may be right.

@gunswick – you may be right. I’ve reduced the pressure in the Pro Ones and last night although the roads were quite wet, I didn’t notice any particular slipping of the tyres although I still didn’t feel confident on them in the wet.

I can’t seem to find 28mm Hutchinson tyres in stock anywhere, so I’m going to get a pair of the IRCs instead.

[gunswick]

I wonder of the ty
I wonder of the tyre pressure is the problem. 90psi is high for these. I have schwalbe s-ones (g-one speeds) and they grip very well, but, they really only like 60psi (they are max rated at 75 iirc) else they skitter about and are hard.

If you have the pro-ones setup tubeless (and you should!) then try them at 60psi or even 55. The reviews of those tyres are glowing, I can’t believe they all did not identify wet grip issues.

[Ogi]

Hutchinson Fusion 5 All

Hutchinson Fusion 5 All Season TL?

[hawkinspeter]

So far, it looks like IRC are

So far, it looks like IRC are winning – especially as no-one (not even ACycles) has the Hutchinsons.

Something occurred to me about the Pro Ones slipping in the wet: I wonder if it’s the pressure that’s causing the problem, so I’ve dropped mine from 90psi down to 60psi to see if that helps.

[schlepcycling]

Another thumbs up for IRC

Another thumbs up for IRC tyres, specifically the IRC Roadlite.  I know it’s not sold as a winter tyre but I used a pair over last winter and so far they’ve covered over 4000 puncture free miles.

[mtbtomo]

No issues with my pro ones in
No issues with my pro ones in wet races. They haven’t lasted mega miles but then they’re meant to be a fast light tyre so I wouldn’t expect them to last 1000s of miles.

I’d use some normal Ones for winter if my non-race tubeless wheels weren’t a bit the worse for wear and i was going to fit some new tyres.

I’d never try ghetto tubeless (normal tyre) on a road bike due to the pressures involved. Mtb, yes. Road, definitely not!

[Anonymous]

Have a look at the Bontrager

Have a look at the Bontrager Hard-Case TLR series. Currently running the R3 TLR version and they roll fast and (so far) no issues with ounctures or lack of grip in the wet.

[iso2000]

hawkinspeter wrote:

@iso2000 – I can’t see any size other than 25mm. Interestingly, thecycleclinic website has some Schwalbe Pro-Ones in 28mm width which almost tempted me until I remembered how slippery they can be in the wet (I’ve never had tyres that slippery before).

you can select 28mm here:

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collections/road-tyres/products/2017-irc-formula-pro-fusion-x-guard-tubeless-tyres

I haven’t used these but will be buying the 28mm pros next summer to replace my winter G-One Speeds.

 

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