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  • August 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm #30001
    MinardiM189

    Just had my first look at the route and details of the race.

    Looks like there is a big change in the points competition this year. Some stage have 5 intermediate sprints, some have only one and a lot of the intermediate sprints are half way up a climb. There is one on the flat 2km from the start of a mountain stage.

    I have no idea how points are going to be awarded, I can’t find a copy of the rules anywhere but it looks like they are trying to create a more competitive competition, which can be won by sprinters, climbers, puncheurs or breakers. Dr Winston should like this.

    Interestingly the most competitive rider is chosen by the public via social media.

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  • September 16, 2019 at 3:27 am #948131
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    tony kappler

    Rescored stage 21. Richeze

    Rescored stage 21. Richeze apparently got a bit physical and was relegated from 10th to 97th.

    September 15, 2019 at 2:16 pm #948129
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Also missed doing my Spain team as well. 

    I may as well have missed doing the Spain team too.

    Fraile, Mate & Nieve have managed to do pretty much nothing.

    Not sure what happened with Mate, he hasn’t hit a break all race.

    September 15, 2019 at 9:58 am #948127
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    So many unknowns…and all quite exciting. I think we also have to factor in that one or two top riders may now be coming to the end of their time. Quintana struggles with consistency, Valverde May pop in very short order, Froome may struggle to recover as a dominant force, Thomas may have another winter on the mince pies…all sorts of stuff. 

    Everywhere I look I see young riders lighting it up.

    It is brilliantly refreshing too, the young riders appear to have a very different mentality and are prepared to attack much more readily than the older riders.

    The World Championship race should be very interesting to see how the different teams race against  MVDP.

    September 14, 2019 at 9:42 pm #948125
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Fortunately I managed to ignore your earlier comments for my purist team..but actually I had the same thoughts myself…almost too good to be true really, he really has bucked the norm.  I didn’t finish picking my team and was going to take him out along with Gaviria…but something happened and I was late doing it. Also missed doing my Spain team as well. 

    Next season it will be interesting to see which GTs different riders are doing.

    I can see Pogacar doing the Giro and challenging.

    What do Ineos do? Does Bernal defend the TdF, do they send Froome & Thomas to support him? What races will Carapaz do ? Will TGH and Sivakov have to take a back seat ? What about Sosa & Dunbar? Will Kwiatowski get the message that he isn’t seen as a GT rider at Ineos ?

    What have JumboVisma promised Dumoulin ? Roglic surely merits leading the team at the TdF.

    So many unknowns…and all quite exciting. I think we also have to factor in that one or two top riders may now be coming to the end of their time. Quintana struggles with consistency, Valverde May pop in very short order, Froome may struggle to recover as a dominant force, Thomas may have another winter on the mince pies…all sorts of stuff. 

    Everywhere I look I see young riders lighting it up.

     

     

    September 14, 2019 at 6:52 pm #948123
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Fortunately I managed to ignore your earlier comments for my purist team..but actually I had the same thoughts myself…almost too good to be true really, he really has bucked the norm.  I didn’t finish picking my team and was going to take him out along with Gaviria…but something happened and I was late doing it. Also missed doing my Spain team as well. 

    Next season it will be interesting to see which GTs different riders are doing.

    I can see Pogacar doing the Giro and challenging.

    What do Ineos do? Does Bernal defend the TdF, do they send Froome & Thomas to support him? What races will Carapaz do ? Will TGH and Sivakov have to take a back seat ? What about Sosa & Dunbar? Will Kwiatowski get the message that he isn’t seen as a GT rider at Ineos ?

    What have JumboVisma promised Dumoulin ? Roglic surely merits leading the team at the TdF.

    September 14, 2019 at 5:35 pm #948121
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Quite amazing that, after Bernal’s success, a 20 year old Pogacar should be quite so fancied to do well in the Vuelta. The times really are changing.

    Undoubtedly Pogacar is very talented but he has never done a GT before and hasn’t done a race with lots of hard climbing. Bernal had done a lot more serious racing before winning the TdF and is 2 years older, expecting Pogacar to do well in GC is a bit premature, imo.

    He may have won in Algarve and California but there wasn’t any ‘difficult’ climbing in either and there wasn’t a lot of serious competition in either race. Kragh Andersen was 2nd in Algarve and Asgreen 3rd in California, neither of whom are exactly GC candidates.

    Yeah…..He’s picked his moments and taken them well.  My point was just the fact he can be held in such high regard at such a young age is an achievement in itself. We seem to be in the middle of a real collection of new young riders coming through from every direction.

    Pogacar has been amazing, particularly when you consider that his team crashed in the TTT losing him loads of time & that he has had virtually no support whatsoever in the mountains.

     

    Bring on Bernal v Pogacar next season.

    Fortunately I managed to ignore your earlier comments for my purist team..but actually I had the same thoughts myself…almost too good to be true really, he really has bucked the norm.  I didn’t finish picking my team and was going to take him out along with Gaviria…but something happened and I was late doing it. Also missed doing my Spain team as well. 

    September 14, 2019 at 3:55 pm #948119
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    Gecko-cyclist

    Wow what a race. Even in a
    Wow what a race. Even in a Vuelta of audacious long range attacks sticking, that was incredible. Best grand tour by miles this year (even if it made a complete mockery of my fantasy teams…)

    September 14, 2019 at 2:48 pm #948117
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Quite amazing that, after Bernal’s success, a 20 year old Pogacar should be quite so fancied to do well in the Vuelta. The times really are changing.

    Undoubtedly Pogacar is very talented but he has never done a GT before and hasn’t done a race with lots of hard climbing. Bernal had done a lot more serious racing before winning the TdF and is 2 years older, expecting Pogacar to do well in GC is a bit premature, imo.

    He may have won in Algarve and California but there wasn’t any ‘difficult’ climbing in either and there wasn’t a lot of serious competition in either race. Kragh Andersen was 2nd in Algarve and Asgreen 3rd in California, neither of whom are exactly GC candidates.

    Yeah…..He’s picked his moments and taken them well.  My point was just the fact he can be held in such high regard at such a young age is an achievement in itself. We seem to be in the middle of a real collection of new young riders coming through from every direction.

    Pogacar has been amazing, particularly when you consider that his team crashed in the TTT losing him loads of time & that he has had virtually no support whatsoever in the mountains.

     

    Bring on Bernal v Pogacar next season.

    September 14, 2019 at 12:04 pm #948115
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Are all fantasy games not like that?..the more you know the more you talk yourself out of the blindingly obvious. 

    I could do to make a second team called “the blindingly obvious” that I spend exactly 2 minutes on…and pitch it against my actual team…i’m Sure it would win by a very long way.

    More making stupid decisions playing catch-up.

    I can see Aranburu winning the stage today now I have taken him out. One of those weeks.

    September 13, 2019 at 10:05 pm #948113
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    I’ve managed to ompletley screw up my Vuelta the last few stages.

    Too much time to think now I’m back from holiday.

    Are all fantasy games not like that?..the more you know the more you talk yourself out of the blindingly obvious. 

    I could do to make a second team called “the blindingly obvious” that I spend exactly 2 minutes on…and pitch it against my actual team…i’m Sure it would win by a very long way.

    September 13, 2019 at 9:15 pm #948111
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    MinardiM189

    I’ve managed to ompletley

    I’ve managed to ompletley screw up my Vuelta the last few stages.

    Too much time to think now I’m back from holiday.

    September 13, 2019 at 6:04 pm #948109
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    Dr Winston
    Sniffer wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Sniffer wrote:
    Gilbert and Aranburu might be better Friday picks?

    My gamble didn’t pay off, I should have stuck to my original plan and gone with Lopez yesterday and brought Aranburu in today.

     

    I went Gilbert, Stybar and Aranburu today.  Wrong DQS rider, but still should work out OK.  Rest are GC and Bouchard

    I ddn’t go Bennet though.

    My dither was Higuita and Madrazo > Gilbert and Aranburu (keep Lopez)….or Lopez  and Higuita > Gilbert and Bennett…

    In the end I din’t expect a GC battle so went with the latter….made a mistake there.

    September 13, 2019 at 3:39 pm #948107
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    Sniffer
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Sniffer wrote:
    Gilbert and Aranburu might be better Friday picks?

    My gamble didn’t pay off, I should have stuck to my original plan and gone with Lopez yesterday and brought Aranburu in today.

     

    I went Gilbert, Stybar and Aranburu today.  Wrong DQS rider, but still should work out OK.  Rest are GC and Bouchard.

    I didn’t go Bennet though.

    September 13, 2019 at 1:24 pm #948105
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    stevemarks

    So three stages left and MY

    So three stages left and MY standard Vuelta has been a mess. I never seem to have had a clue really, but I am currently 6th in the purist just 24 points off the leader and its really open, all seem to have 4 of the top five, but only a couple of us have a sprinter in Bennett.  it’s going to be very close.

    September 13, 2019 at 11:04 am #948103
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    Condor Andy

    I went for Kelderman over

    I went for Kelderman over Majka for some bizarre reason. I still have a few changes left, one for tomorrow and then the sprinters in for Madrid.

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