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  • November 16, 2016 at 8:00 am #26490
    shay cycles

    I know I’m not the only one who is bothered by the language in some of the comments on Road.cc – is there not something that can be done about it?

    Maybe because of parental influence I rarely swear and when I do it is in the heat of the moment, for example when a driver causes me serious risk I might use one or two (who’s counting) expletives; but in a considered response to anything however unjust, vile or repugnant there are plenty of words in our language which are fit to be seen by all. 

    A comment typed on a computer is by definition considered (otherwise the fingers wouldn’t be able to find the keys etc) and although we do, and should, discuss issues that are terribly emotive and sometimes controversial we should remember that this is a public and non-age-restricted site.

    This morning I’ve already read the “C” word used more than once as well as the “F” word.

    Some might think I’m being a bit “prim and proper” and I might well be; but were my child or grandchild read the page I’d be unhappy.

    So please:

    (a) lets think about what we are typing and

    (b) could the site admins moderate the language?

    (c) lets see more immaginitive use of language

     

    PS – I consider that the drivers causing the death by driving stupidly last night in Leeds deserve much, much more than the law will give them. I consider them to be reckless, stupid, irresponsible idiots who should be locked up for a long time and never be allowed to drive a vehicle again (and I mean never). They repulse any right thinking person and we rightly abhor not only their behaviour but the nature of society that lets this kind of thing become relatively common and relatively acceptable. BUT I won’t swear on here about them (ask me elsewhere though and I might!)

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  • November 17, 2016 at 3:33 pm #881949
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    davel
    Kapelmuur wrote:
    I’m reading Margaret Atwood’s ‘Hag Seed’ in which a performance of ‘The Tempest’ is to be mounted in a prison by the inmates.

    During rehearsals the director insists that all contemporary swear words are replaced by Shakespearian equivalents.

    A compromise solution?

    It’s an interesting point – many (the most offensive?) of our swears have ancient roots.

    There’s definitely snobbery attached to a few of the anti-swearing posts, along the lines of ‘lacking imagination/English skills’ or ‘devaluing the point the swearer is trying to make’.

    Do they think the same when leafing through their Complete Works of Shakespeare/Chaucer?

    November 17, 2016 at 3:17 pm #881947
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    Kapelmuur

    I’m reading Margaret Atwood’s

    I’m reading Margaret Atwood’s ‘Hag Seed’ in which a performance of ‘The Tempest’ is to be mounted in a prison by the inmates.

    During rehearsals the director insists that all contemporary swear words are replaced by Shakespearian equivalents.

    A compromise solution?

     

    November 17, 2016 at 1:00 pm #881945
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    CygnusX1
    bikebot wrote:
    Be excellent to each other.

    And party on, dudes!

    November 17, 2016 at 12:05 pm #881943
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    BikeBud
    mrtrilby wrote:
    newtonk wrote:
    Great thread.

    Regarding the kids, while I don’t go effin and jeffin too much in front of them, I think it’s pretty futile and actually pointless to try to fully insulate them against swearing. 

    Educating them about swear words and why we need to be careful about using them is one thing, but when they start reading them used so casually in forums, it normalises that kind of language to them (and us for that matter). I don’t think that’s a good thing.

    This is a great website full of useful stuff, but it’s a shame that we cannot be more inclusive – my kids love cycling – doing and reading about it – but I’d think twice about forwarding them articles from here for them to read, simply because the tone of some comments is starting to normalise some really rather appalling language. Context is everything, and this is a public place.

    I’d think twice about forwarding my kids articles from here because they’re often rubbish, and the comments are full of rubbish too – now’t to do with the swearing!  

    November 17, 2016 at 8:44 am #881941
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    willythepimp

    Swearing at people is not ok,

    Swearing at people is not ok, but sometimes justifiable.

    Swearing about situations ect is fair game.

     

    Why the hangups about the cunt C word? It’s no worse than the others, really. 

     

    Is naughty words on the internet your biggest worry?

    November 17, 2016 at 8:36 am #881939
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    freespirit1

    How about this?

    How about this?

     

    http://www.angelfire.com/or/mckennap/fuck.html

    November 17, 2016 at 8:30 am #881937
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    willythepimp

    Jackson wrote:

    Jackson wrote:
    Can’t imagine an unsupervised kid on the internet is heading directly to a road cycling forum hoping to pick up some new swear words in a 60-post argument about disc brakes.
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    That’s seen off the think of the kids tripe. I actually lolled at that.

    November 17, 2016 at 12:56 am #881935
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    Leviathan

    Swearing is like a spice, it

    Swearing is like a spice, it should be used sparingly; but things can be a bit bland without it.

    I always say if swearing is good enough for Stephen Fry, then it is fucking well good enough for you.

    November 16, 2016 at 11:09 pm #881933
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    Jack Osbourne snr

    Piffle.
    Piffle.

    November 16, 2016 at 9:41 pm #881931
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    bikebot
    The _Kaner wrote:
    @bikebot

    “and as I’ve got some Scottish blood it just sounds like someone saying good afternoon. But to return to the landlord analogy, who would actually want to visit a pub full of people shouting abuse at one another, and with random strangers walking up and swearing in your face.“

    Sounds much like most pubs around my vicinity when I was growing up…

    There might be something in that as to how my parents ended up in London, I’m technically a cockney.  Family weddings were interesting.

    Must go riding in Scotland again next year. Have the urge to find somewhere stunning with absolutely no signal 😉

    November 16, 2016 at 9:17 pm #881929
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    darrenleroy

    For fuck’s sake, it’s just

    For fuck’s sake, it’s just words. No one dies. 

    November 16, 2016 at 9:08 pm #881927
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    The _Kaner

    @bikebot

    @bikebot

    “and as I’ve got some Scottish blood it just sounds like someone saying good afternoon. But to return to the landlord analogy, who would actually want to visit a pub full of people shouting abuse at one another, and with random strangers walking up and swearing in your face.“

    Sounds much like most pubs around my vicinity when I was growing up…

    November 16, 2016 at 8:29 pm #881925
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    bikebot

    When sites attract and

    When sites attract and tolerate bad behaviour, this is what users decide to do.

    1. Respond and escalate
    2. Ignore it
    3. Leave

    Women are much more likely than men to do 2, and 2 progresses to 3.  Adolescents are much more likely to go for 1, (that’s by no means exclusive). Sites only need a few problem users to spiral down very quickly.

    And as I said earlier, most site operators just hate dealing with this stuff full stop. You get users either way, people seem to be very happy throwing rude words at one another.  Been there, built it, made money out of it, moved on.

    So after what I’d gueess is a a little over thrity years of being online, the phrase “fuck off cunt” aimed at me from people I don’t even know, has lost some of its edge, and as I’ve got some Scottish blood it just sounds like someone saying good afternoon. But to return to the landlord analogy, who would actually want to visit a pub full of people shouting abuse at one another, and with random strangers walking up and swearing in your face. I’m much more inclinded to ignore, and leave early.

    Or as some might put it, I’d fuck off.

    Be excellent to each other.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    November 16, 2016 at 8:22 pm #881923
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    Jackson

    Can’t imagine an unsupervised
    Can’t imagine an unsupervised kid on the internet is heading directly to a road cycling forum hoping to pick up some new swear words in a 60-post argument about disc brakes.

    November 16, 2016 at 8:03 pm #881921
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    tritecommentbot

    Lungsofa74yearold wrote:

    Lungsofa74yearold wrote:
    Oh the delicious irony – a post complaining about the levels of swearing on here unleashes a deluge of profanity

     

    That isn’t irony..

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