Are road clipless cycling shoes better than SPDs

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    armchairbiker

    I quick question to gain opinion and feedback:

    I’ve been riding my roadbike with my mountain bike SPDs for the last couple of years and have got on ok with them. However one of my friends recommended getting decent road clipless system. Given it’s going to end up costing me £130 (shoes and decent pedals) – is it worth it and will I gain in my road cycling?

    Cheers

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  • #642745
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    armchairbiker

    Gosh – I go away for Easter
    Gosh – I go away for Easter and the replies keep coming in.

    Looks like I’ll go for the race MTB shoes then.

    #642743
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    Jack Osbourne snr

    abudhabiChris wrote:I ha ve

    abudhabiChris wrote:
    I ha ve double-sided SPDs on my audax bike and also on my fixie, and Look Keo (grey) on my road bikes.

    I’d say it has very little to do with the pedals and most to do with the shoes.

    I recently got some Bont A1 road shoes and the difference between them and even my Mavic Zxelliums is very noticeable, in terms of giving a wide, stable platform. Even more so over my Shimano MTB style shoes.

    Cleat wear also contributes:

    I ride Crank Bros Candys on Roadie, Audax and Commuter bikes, but change shoes depending on the weather or need to “de-bling”. Cheap DMT mtb shoes contact the platform nicely, but feel best only when cleats are new, as the bend in the sole begins to get noticeable when the cleats wear in. Bling carbon Mtb Diadoras feel great and are perfect for multi stop audaxing. Uber bling carbon road shoes (also Diadora) have Crank Bros Quattro cleats on them (hard plastic “pontoon” around the cleat for walking on) and although they feel as though every watt of power is going in, they lose out to the carbon MTB shoes in all but non-stop or “musette fuelled” rides… because they are still a pain in the ar$e to walk in.

    Basically, unless you are TTing, or a cat 1 racer, light MTB shoes/pedals win every time.

    #642741
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    KirinChris

    I have double-sided SPDs on
    I have double-sided SPDs on my audax bike and also on my fixie, and Look Keo (grey) on my road bikes.

    I’d say it has very little to do with the pedals and most to do with the shoes.

    I recently got some Bont A1 road shoes and the difference between them and even my Mavic Zxelliums is very noticeable, in terms of giving a wide, stable platform. Even more so over my Shimano MTB style shoes.

    #642739
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    simonmb

    dave_atkinson

    dave_atkinson wrote:
    dave_atkinson wrote:
    There’s definitely better things to spend £130 on, in my opinion.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?PartnerID=79&ModelID=25967

    :D

    What’s your problem? Comes with a free water bottle. What more do you want? :O

    #642737
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    Ciclismo

    Simon E wrote:ilovemytinbred

    Simon E wrote:
    ilovemytinbred wrote:
    I feel the bigger platform on the road pedal (look keo max- red cleats) gives me more comfort and/or better feel than my mtb pedals particularly on the longer rides.

    I’d suggest that would be sorted by stiffer-soled MTB shoes, or Shimano A520 / A600 single-sided SPD pedals.

    Stiffer soles mean either more weight or greater cost. And ilovemytinbred hit the nail on the head – the wider cleats on road shoes allow for a greater area of power transfer, which equates to lighter shoes at the same level of comfort as MTB cleats. But I prefer MTB cleats for commuting as you can still walk with them, unlike the Look style cleats which are very utilitarian but impractical for anything other than riding.

    #642735
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    dave atkinson

    dave_atkinson wrote:There’s

    dave_atkinson wrote:
    There’s definitely better things to spend £130 on, in my opinion.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?PartnerID=79&ModelID=25967

    😀

    #642733
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    handlebarcam

    dave_atkinson wrote:There’s

    dave_atkinson wrote:
    There’s definitely better things to spend £130 on

    True, but there are many, many worse things on which one can spend £130 (or more – how much is the cheapest Garmin…?)

    #642731
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    ilovemytinbred

    It is not a stiffness issue
    It is not a stiffness issue with the shoes, they are racey shoes. Those pedals may well address the platform size giving a more stable feel and might be ideal if you want to walk in your shoes.
    Not my cup of tea though.

    #642729
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    northernrebel

    I run Shimano M540 pedals on
    I run Shimano M540 pedals on my mountain bike and M520s on my road bike. Saves the hassle of finding different shoes for different rides – i know that all my shoes will work.
    I’ve never used road clipless, so I don’t know if I’m losing out efficiency wise, but it’s great to walk normally at cafe stops rather than mince around in road shoes.
    I do run the tension a bit higher on the road bike as I’m leaping off it a lot less often. This has lead to a couple of dodgy dismounts as I’ve misjudged the effort to unclip after my commute.

    #642727
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    Simon E

    ilovemytinbred wrote:I feel

    ilovemytinbred wrote:
    I feel the bigger platform on the road pedal (look keo max- red cleats) gives me more comfort and/or better feel than my mtb pedals particularly on the longer rides.

    I’d suggest that would be sorted by stiffer-soled MTB shoes, or Shimano A520 / A600 single-sided SPD pedals.

    #642725
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    ilovemytinbred

    I thought I would comment
    I thought I would comment just because I am a massive fan of my my road pedals and much prefer them to mtb SPDs.
    However I understand others are happy with their mtb pedals and am not trying to say my way is better etc. Personally i think it would be great if their was some way for you to try before you buy to see if the road ones are better for you.

    I feel the bigger platform on the road pedal (look keo max- red cleats) gives me more comfort and/or better feel than my mtb pedals particularly on the longer rides. I find the float has less resistance and clipping out is a nicer action. I feel like there is a more seamless connection to the pedals although this I admit is a bit of an airy fairy description it is well worth the cash (for me) I dont know for sure if the shoes also play a part. mtb shoes are specialized, road are Sidis. Also mtb pedals are shimano 540 I think, the ones above the 520

    Oh I use flat pedals to commute!

    #642723
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    armchairbiker

    Great comments – thanks.
    Great comments – thanks. Sounds like I’ll be sticking with my SPDs for now then.

    #642721
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    cborrman

    could not agree more with
    could not agree more with all, especially dave, much better ways to spend your money!

    I use mountain cleats on two roadbikes for training and even racing triathlons as they are easier to run on in transition, more stable putting foot down, and they also usually have rubber/other sole suitable for clipping out when weaving through traffic.

    the only reason I could possibly see is aerodynamics, but even then, specialzed do a sport tourer shoe without the grippy soles but still a recessed mountain cleat for £70 and you use the same pedals.

    in terms of your “designed for road” comment, I would say that road cleats were designed without taking practicalities in mind like; getting off the bike ever, walking with an unfixable puncture, walking over a section too rough for road tyres, walking off a cramp, getting of the bike quickly, weaving through traffic unclipped, or any other real world practicalities – all of which have been designed into the cleats you already have …

    #642719
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    dave atkinson

    There’s definitely better
    There’s definitely better things to spend £130 on, in my opinion. i use road cleats for TTing (on the rare occasions that i TT) and track riding (because you have to) but other than that I’m on Crank Bros Candys on- and off-road, which i like for the extra float over SPDs.

    #642717
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    Simon E

    armchairbiker wrote:will I

    ”armchairbiker” wrote:
    will I gain in my road cycling?

    No. If you’re happy with your current setup then don’t waste your money.

    Having tried some Shimano 105 pedals the only difference I could discern is less play in the cleat-pedal interface, providing a slightly more ‘locked-in’ feeling. This may be good for that 0.1% gain in power transfer when racing but I can’t see why it would matter otherwise. I found the limited float (with the yellow cleats) was inadequate and walking was unpleasant, particularly up and down steps.

    For most riding you can’t beat the double-sided SPD type like Shimano M520s, particularly for commuting or stop-start riding.

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