The Metropolitan Police’s willingness to investigate clear wrongdoing has been severely criticised in light of the News of the World phone-hacking scandal.
Of course it would be good to think that was a one-off aberration under a previous Met. regime and one that had something to do with an unwillingness by detectives at the time to expose a culture of receiving press backhanders amongst their colleagues.
Things are different now. But take a look at this video and read the account on our forum posted by the road.cc regular who was the victim of the assault, about both incident and the police’s attempt to bring the attacker to book.
Although the registered keeper of the car was easily traceable it seems that on the day in question the vehicle was left unlocked with the keys in the ignition, only for it to be taken without consent but somehow later returned to the owner by person or persons unknown.
Could happen I suppose, after all there are some very considerate, violently thuggish car thieves out there who sometimes repent and, racked with guilt, simply return the stolen vehicle to its rightful owner completely undamaged.
In which the case the registered keeper will no doubt be keen to help track down the person filmed in the assault in order to thank them for seeing the error of their ways, at least in terms of the return of the car, if not the attack on a cyclist who was hardly in a position to defend himself.
What we can say about the assailant is that he looks about 30, medium height and build, possibly married judging by the ring on his left hand, bit temperamental, fancies himself as a hard man (with his mates in tow of course), punches like a girl.
Over to you tweeters, bloggers and off-duty coppers.
UPDATE: The Metropolitan Police tell us that this case remains the subject of an on-going investigation by detectives from Bexley CID. We will, of course, bring you news of any further developments as and when they occur.



















81 thoughts on “Updated: Violent assault on London cyclist captured on film”
Corruption at the highest
Corruption at the highest levels. The assailant must be a Met police officer. What has happened to British society?
I reported a far less serious
I reported a far less serious incident to the Met and was similarly able to give the number plate. The Police immediately started speculating about whether the registered owner was driving that day, maybe the car had been hired out, maybe it had been “borrowed” by someone etc etc. One has to wonder if they would have the same concerns if it had been a police officer assaulted.
Please find this man! One of
Please find this man! One of the very same reasons I wear a helmet cam. Hope the cyclist is ok.
Upsetting to watch.
Upsetting to watch. Inconceivable that these thugs can’t be found.
It has been proven over and
It has been proven over and over again that the Metropolitan Police cannot be relied on. Or not that many of the police forces in this country. Last month a woman and her daughter were murdered by the woman’s ex partner, who had been reported to the cops a zillion times, not only by her, but by her neighbours. Now she’s dead, and her 2 year old daughter. And her 10 year old was left an orphan and traumatized for ever b/c she witnessed it all. And now there is an inquiry, another f***ing waste of time and money that will be another whitewash to cover up the police’s “don’t give a fuck” attitude. Now they’ll wait for these thugs to kill a cyclist with their car, and then our joke of justice system will let them off with a fine and a community service and a driving ban of a couple of weeks!!!
All I could think while watching this video is “burn the car with the c**ts inside! X(
I’m sure there is a way to find out where the car owner lives. Do you know any News of the World “journalists”?
Being from Canada I’m not
Being from Canada I’m not surprised, the Met is known internationally to rank along with the New O’rleans force and the LAPD as one of the worlds most corrupt forces.
And his name is John? Sounds
And his name is John? Sounds like it “John, leave off” …
This is in Bexley Village –
This is in Bexley Village – outside Ferraris brasserie at the junction of Bexley High Street and Hurst Road.
Have posted this here http://853blog.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/violent-attack-on-cyclist-in-bexley-village/
and http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/42013/attack-on-cyclist-in-bexley-village (a lot of Charlton fans in that area)
Good luck tracking this idiot down.
Utterly disgraceful and
Utterly disgraceful and horrible to watch. For what it’s worth I’ve sent the links to the video, and the original forum account to the local papers – I’m from Bexleyheath and as darryl1974 pointed out this is in Bexley Village. May not lead to much but the more places this idiot’s face gets posted the higher the chance someone might develop a conscience and say who he is
Interesting – note that the
Interesting – note that the Bexley area is known for its high percentage of locals with links to far right groups and whose members wear white shirts and have short haircuts and are not unused to using their fists. it does rather defy logic that the police are unable to identify the perpetrators of this assault given that the vehicle’s registration plate is clearly identified. If the owner of the vehicle cannot supply an adequate reason why he/she cannot identify who was driving that day then perhaps he/she should be reminded that allowing someone without insurance to use a vehicle is an offence. Basically the cops should say to the owner, “Tell us who it was or we’ll give you six points on your licence and a fine for the vehicle offence.”
It’s simple policing, not rocket science.
I don’t live far away. I’ll take note of that registration number.
OldRidgeback
As a resident of Bexley Village can I say that 99.9% of the residents aren’t ‘far right groups and whose members wear white shirts and have short haircuts and are not unused to using their fists’. I’ll think you’ll find the BNP actually didn’t to well in the last election within our ward. Oh and please it is actually Bexley, Kent 😉 The Village itself is a very nice area!
I would have thought the car would have been passing through and it was unfortunate the incident took place in the high street.
I myself cycle through at 2-3 per week for the last 8 years and the only trouble I have had was an old dear swiping me with her car door.
I hope the police actual bothered to view the video and then visit the registered keeper. Somehow I think not.
I’m an ex-local, used to
I’m an ex-local, used to cycle round here a lot. SE London does have its share of knuckle-draggers, sadly. The BNP used to have its HQ not far away in Welling. Not too far from Eltham, either, where Stephen Lawrence was killed and we know how well the Met came out of that sad episode.
It doesn’t sound like they tried too hard to see who *was* driving the car. Fingerprinting the steering wheel might show whether anyone other than the registered keeper was driving it. His mobile phone records might show where he was. Not that I’m trying to do their job for them.
Anyone seeing this video is
Anyone seeing this video is going to be horrified, but don’t start blaming this on the fact it happened in Bexley! Like gazzaputt I’d like to point out that Bexley is actually one of the safest boroughs in London – the crime rates elsewhere in the capital are on the most part higher – generally and for violence – and the days of the BNP (who, as pointed out were in Welling) are long gone. The BNP HQ was shut down in 1995.
This is a nasty incident, pure and simple, but one that could have occured easily anywhere in London – or outside. There are racists everywhere. Bexley is not “known for its high percentage of locals with links to far right groups” even if the idiots in this video look like that…
No wonder the ‘crime records’
No wonder the ‘crime records’ are low – even when presented with videos like this the police don’t consider it a crime!
[quote=jijiandnoah]Anyone seeing this video is going to be horrified, but don’t start blaming this on the fact it happened in Bexley! Like gazzaputt I’d like to point out that Bexley is actually one of the safest boroughs in London – the crime rates elsewhere in the capital are on the most part higher – generally and for violence – and the days of the BNP (who, as pointed out were in Welling) are long gone. The BNP HQ was shut down in 1995.
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Why don’t you just offer the
Why don’t you just offer the Police a tenner for the guys name and address, say you are from the News Of The World, that should swing it for you…
Well if the law can’t trace
Well if the law can’t trace the driver I hope that the car gets traced and would not be surprised if it gets trashed !!! Who believes in Karma ?
To be fair there are pricks
To be fair there are pricks like this all over the place, with their ‘look at how tough iam attitude’. It does’nt matter to me who they are or where they’re from, bottom line is police need to deal with the likes of him before they end up killing someone with their complete disregard for human life.
I sent this via Twitter to
I sent this via Twitter to Ross Lydall of the Evening Standard and to Dave Hill of The Guardian.
according to a registration
according to a registration website I looked at, the car was originally registered in Luton. This may of course just happen to be where the car was purchased.
Just one more point. Surely
Just one more point. Surely the owner’s excuse should be challenged by the police. Detective “we don’t believe you. Unless you tell us who was driving your car that day, we will charge you with attempting to pervert the course of justice. Alternatively, you can save yourself a lot of hassle by just telling us who the two men in the video are. The choice is yours.”
It’s doing the rounds on the
It’s doing the rounds on the interwebulator – LCC has sent it on to its several thousand Twitter followers, there’s a link on LFGSS, and more
be a bit embarrassing for the law if the forces of social networking caught the thug when they couldn’t be bothered
@Fluffy, excellent news,
@Fluffy, excellent news, excellent news.
As a serving Police Officer
As a serving Police Officer in Northern Ireland, I have never heard such Bull. If a Police officer here didnt investigate this they would find themselves infront of the Police Ombudsman very quickly!!!! How much evidence do they need? This is Bread & Butter policing. X( X(
I’m not sure the police would
I’m not sure the police would investigate anything to do with cycling even if the offender left his name, address, phone number and DNA sample at the scene,
How come the police have the
How come the police have the powers to charge people with withholding information if their car is caught speeding and the driver says it was not them
I would use the same law against the owner of this car, he/she is clearly withholding information because no-one steals a car and returns it, i can almost guarantee they are withholding the details because its a mate
I ride through the village
I ride through the village most days so I’ll keep an eye out for this car.
Surely the vehicle owners story is rubbish and the Police could do more if they wanted to?
Mm watched this quite a few
Mm watched this quite a few time. The woman in the black dress with the white prints on seems to come from the back to the front and be very helpful with the reg etc. I think she may know of these “people” from the past.. If you have her contact details, may well be worth asking if she knows any more..
Thugs!! Probably been down
Thugs!! Probably been down the pub and tanked up on booze.
Not uncommon to get abuse when out riding. Friend has been threatened, but never punches thrown. Only a matter of time though I suspect, unfortunately!
Something needs to be done to change this apalling attitude of drivers towards cyclists and pedestrians.
Hope these guys are ok.
how is it for other vehicle
how is it for other vehicle related prosecution |(ie speeding, jump lights etc) the onus is on the vehicle owner to provide driver details – and if they dont -or cant – they can be hit with MS90 (failure to provide driver details)?
double standards – for a simple piece of revenue generation they follow letter of the law – for a real crime …….they cant be arsed!
Shabs5000 wrote:how is it for
I believe Shabs5000 has nailed this in one. I wonder had the cyclist damaged the car if the police would have charged him with criminal damage. Second class citizens for riding bikes. A very poor effort Met.
4 weeks after doing a Wiggo,
4 weeks after doing a Wiggo, on my bike for 1st time me and a mate got taken out by a Merc,broken ribs etc luckily collarb ok. Guy drove of, luckily taxi driver chased him and reported to the police that it was a 19 year old kid and that he had threatenend the taxidriver when he got to his house.
Best bit is he told police “its my dads car, i stole it (no insurance there then!) i did it and drove of” and guess what CPS didnt want to prosecute!
Welcome to cycling on the roads……..
It should also be added that
It should also be added that the best thing a cyclist can do to prevent such attacks is not to provoke drivers in the first place. If you hate cars then you’re entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t mean you have to go round trying to make driving more difficult for everyone on the assumption that all car journeys are somehow “illegitimate”.
If the cyclist concerned is a road.cc regular then let’s face it, it’s pretty likely that he has an anti-car point of view.
Bobby Lightcycles wrote:It
Absolute rubbish. People dont become anticar just because they ride a bike.
As for “provoking” drivers, again rediculous. They’re not territorial tigers willing to attack to defend their territory, they’re people like us.
You’ve made a lot of assertations with little to back it up. It in no way helps cyclists, motorists or anyone else… and in all reality this is about assault not the “us and them” you’ve tried to portray.
Bobby Lightcycles wrote:It
Congratulations!
You win the award for Moron Of The Week.
Please return next week and have another go. Based on the above quote I’m sure you would have no problem securing this prestigious award again.
Bobby Lightcycles wrote:It
Hmmm…
Why would being a member of a cycling website make you anti car?
Aggressive and obnoxious driving cause a lot of these incidents, cars going for narrow gaps, pushing cyclists into traffic furniture on narrow roads, not giving enough room whilst overtaking. These are just some of the incidents and that’s if they see you at all. You have to stand your ground when this happens, this doesn’t mean abusing people but sometimes means confronting drivers, you don’t expect to be punched whilst trying to suggest to a driver he’s driving dangerously.
Some motorists have the opinion that it’s ‘their’ road and cyclists shouldn’t be on it, some are just bad drivers, some are just bullies and some give cyclists lots of room and are a pleasure to be around. Most if not all people on here are both motorists and cyclists and would treat other road users as they wished to be treated.
To suggest this incident is anything less than mindless thuggery is just lunacy.
Bobby Lightcycles wrote:It
What a load of BOLLOCKS!!! This takes the prize as the stupidest comment I’ve seen on road.cc in the two years I’ve been lurking here.
I’m a road.cc regular, I have cycled for most of my 56 years and own two bikes, I also own a car and have held a full driving licence for nearly 40 years. I do not hate cars and don’t treat all car jouneys as ‘illegitimate’.
I’ll criticise poor driving as quickly as I will poor cycling. It’s people who are the problem, not their choice of vehicular propulsion.
jova54 wrote:Bobby
You obviously haven’t been “lurking” hard enough. But I agree, this is a pretty stupid comment. Rather like comments in the 1950s Deep South about African Americans deserving getting beaten up if they were “uppity.”
OK guys – the cyclist who was
OK guys – the cyclist who was hit did not say anything to the assailants and did not make any hand signal gestures to them either. The car had cut up another rider and had stopped to give a lot of extrordinary verbal abuse. Then they were driving off again, having threatened to run me over, and clipped me with a wing mirror. They stopped and you saw the result.
Anyway, I am off to Paris on a 24 hour charity ride tonight so if anyone wants to sponsor me – http://www.bmycharity.com/L2P24 – go for it!
Why should I, as a road.cc
Why should I, as a road.cc regular, have an anti-car point of view? I drive a car and have done so for 30+ years. I also ride a bicycle.
I like Top Gear, so should that make me be anti bike?
I am a regular person who likes to ride his bike. I am pretty careful but I tend not to be too happy when car drivers are not careful around me. The VAST majority of motor vehicle drivers are careful and considerate. The same can be said about cyclists. There are always a few who give the others a bad name, in every walk of life – car drivers, cyclists, policemen, chefs …
Really brave, those guys in
Really brave, those guys in the car – i wonder how brave they would be if they weren’t mob handed – the real losers in this are plod – if they can’t get a prosecution from this then there is no hope that they will ever get to the bottom of the phone hacking affair
– very sad – hope the rider is ok
I’d attempt to get it
I’d attempt to get it broadcast on Crimewatch.
The ludicrous behaviour of those members of (what passes as) our Police force is not so surprising as it falls in line with the current appalling attitude of a significant number of UK motorists towards cyclists. Nevertheless, given the officers obvious failure to do anything remotely approaching an acceptable job I’d report them to the Professional Standards department of the police force concerned.
@tinuts I agree. If the
@tinuts I agree. If the Police decide not to take any action, for whatever reason, a complaint should be made to their ombudsman to inquire as to why no action was taken.
Lots of stereotyping going on
Lots of stereotyping going on here, people in white shirts and short hair are all in the BNP?? All cops are bent and don’t do there jobs properly?? All cyclist are anti-car…etc, etc. Whilst I hope this guy is caught and dealt with, those who think all people tell the truth during police enquiries must live in cloud cuckoo land!!! It’s good to see this blog as this guy should be identified soon.
As a serving cop in
As a serving cop in Northumbria (way up north where it’s cold) I have to admit it’s embarassing for us who do our job properly. Gone are the days of Gene Hunt and his crew, shame really.
Lets hope we catch them !
its just a very sad
its just a very sad indictment of this country the police and government that this situation has been allowed to happen all we can hope is that someone somewhere has the balls to actually do something about it
Given the screen shot from
Given the screen shot from the video is the driver (you see him getting back in to the car via the drivers door), perhaps the police would like to find someone who drives without insurance, and is clearly a danger to other road users?
Failing that, contact the DVLA for an address to settle the matter “out of court”.
Perhaps if you suggested that to the police, they may be forced to actually act on the matter. I hate it when the police do this, I was knocked off my motorbike by a lorry on the A406 several years ago. The policeman at the time told me that there are plenty of camera’s on that road so they can catch him. Then a few weeks later the police sent me a letter stating there wasn’t enough evidence and the matter was closed – road safety isn’t something police car about at all until someone dies, unfortunately.
Is the victim from the
Is the victim from the political constituency where this happened? If so get the local MP involved. Even if it’s not his constituency I’d still suggest getting in touch with an MP. This is a valid and effective route to applying pressure to the police.
The car was not stolen so if
The car was not stolen so if the driver, who committed the assault, was not the registered keeper then the vehicle was being driven with the permission of the registered keeper. This being the case, the police are obliged to ask the keeper if the driver was insured to use the vehicle. If not, then the keeper has committed an offence of allowing an uninsured driver to use the vehicle. The only way the keeper of the vehicle can prove to the police that the vehicle driver (who committed the assault) was insured is to release the name of the person to the police. If the vehicle keeper refuses to do this it can be assumed that the driver was uninsured and the police can charge the keeper with allowing an uninsured driver to use the vehicle. This offence would be worth three-six points on the keeper’s licence, though perhaps some of the serving officers who commented earlier can clarify that.
The victim of this assault should press the point with the police. If the vehicle keeper won’t divulge the name of the person committing the assault, then the offence of allowing someone to drive the car without insurance should be made against the keeper. It is a lesser offence than the assault but will leave the vehicle keeper with a fine, much higher insurance premiums and will ensure the person does not lend the vehicle to the same person again. Sometimes a round-about route to justice is the only way forward.
I have a short haircut and sometimes wear white shirts but at least I don’t live in Bexley!
Sadly doesn’t surprise me.
Sadly doesn’t surprise me. Went to my local police station last night to report a disability related hate crime “not a police matter” was the response. Do people realise that only one in twenty crimes are prosecuted? Our previous government passed loads of new legislation the police aren’t prepared to uphold it.
OldRidgeback – completely
OldRidgeback – completely agree after all Al Capone went to prison for tax evasion.
I hope this gent is alright.
I hope this gent is alright. Living all over the place I can tell you that these idiots exist everywhere and unfortunately even if you’re a safe, respectful rider there will always be occasions like this. Watching this footage has really made me upset with the relationship between cyclists and drivers. The police are an embarrasment.
Everyone who sees this should
Everyone who sees this should forward/tweet it on to any journalists that they have contact details for. This is NOT acceptable for the police to just shrug off.
NWLondoner wrote:Everyone who
The entire journalism profession is too busy navel-gazing following the NotW debacle to pay any attenion to a cyclist getting a thump by a knuckle-dragger.
OldRidgeback – “at least I
OldRidgeback – “at least I don’t live in Bexley” – to be honest, with that attitude I’m kind of glad you don’t
As said before – this happens all over London, there are knuckledragging types everywhere. Don’t dismiss an entire borough on the basis of the actions of a few idiots
jijiandnoah
Well said, there are idiot like this all over the place, from the well to do areas down to the highrise low rent areas – in and out of London. In the same way we have bad drivers who couldn’t give a toss about cyclists and generous motorists who do. In cases like this when even the Police aren’t interested, you just have to hope Karma exists
If anyone does have any
If anyone does have any evidence of the owener/registered address for this vehicle I suggest they share it – not for people like us to go and try and make things right of course but for the police, as a bit of a help. They need it.
“OldRidgeback – “at least I
“OldRidgeback – “at least I don’t live in Bexley” – to be honest, with that attitude I’m kind of glad you don’t”
I tried to make fun of my own post, seeing as some people took objection to it. Perhaps it wasn’t the most balanced thing I’ve ever written but then I didn’t expect a call to arms from the people of Bexley. Nope I don’t live in Bexley. I know people who do and have been there a few times.
I note you didn’t comment on my suggestion that the police could quite easily charge the vehicle owner with an offence, which I thought was rather more important to this thread anyway.
Lets face it – he’ll get
Lets face it – he’ll get nothing.
Hope he broke his hand on the fella’s helmet.
I think the best option is to carry a pepper spray or something similar as self defence, far too many of these hooligans about.
Personally I avoid any traffic and try to stick to country lanes, there is a serious lack of respect and understanding of the basic rules of the road from a large proportion of drivers in this country.
OldRidgeback
OldRidgeback
You
OldRidgeback
OldRidgeback
You’re right enough, I didn’t comment on your point about the Police charging the owner of the vehicle and – unsurprisingly given my earlier posts – I agree with you, despite the snidey implication I somehow chose to ignore it. And yes, that particular point was far more important to the thread which is why the stupid comments about Bexley were irritating and unnecessary to begin with. Hardly a call to arms, but I’m not going to apologise for liking the place I live in and defending it when someone reduces it to a stereotype
Sarcasm vs snide – not worth
Sarcasm vs snide – not worth debating maybe. Maybe one of the reasons I made that comment is that some of the people I know in Bexley have less than wholesome attitudes towards immigration and race. But if you like the place you’re welcome to it! See that exclamation mark? It means something.
Back to the point though and what this thread should be about before we got sidetracked – I’d be curious what the two serving cops who posted earlier in the thread have to say regarding my point on vehicle insurance. If the vehicle owner can’t prove that the driver had insurance, then the vehicle owner cannot prove that hs or she is not guilty of an offence. And the only way to reveal whether the vehicle driver had insurance is to reveal the person’s name.
Video evidence of reasonable quality and a vehicle registration plate should be enough to start with for Bexley’s hard-pressed CID. Maybe I’m missing something on the crime torn streets of Bexley I don’t know about that means the cops are struggling with their workload?
Interesting debate going on
Interesting debate going on here. I just cycled London to Paris in under 24 hours and the treatment of our group by French motorists was stunning. People stopped on roundabouts to let us pass. They overtook right on the other side of the road and only when completely safe to do so. In Kent we had someone overtake us and then immediately turn left directly infront of us!!
Even in Paris the motorists (all vehicles!) were patient, safe and did not blare horns or shout at us (except encouragement and support).
We have a lot to learn here!!
SimpleSimon wrote:Interesting
Yeah, see what you’ve done 😉
Having lived in and cycled in and around London for years i don’t envy anyone doing so, i’m now out in deepest Gloucestershire and although the driving is better you still get the fools. I’ve spent a lot of time riding and training around Avignon, Bergerac and Bourg en Bresse and French drivers are 100 percent better than the English. Far more considerate, nicer and they stop for you, it’s unheard of. The first time i rode there i was stunned. Even the kids urge you on as if you were riding a tour. Couple this with really nice roads, it’s cycling mecca
Glad you’re ok. Here’s hoping
Glad you’re ok. Here’s hoping you get it on Crime Watch. I wasn’t surprised to see the widest BBC coverage of the TDF so far this year was Flecha getting side swiped by a car. I can imagine it being a popular clip amongst a certain small group of drivers and given the absence of damage to the car I wonder if it may increase careless driving…. Better to nudge someone who may have a helmet cam into the ditch than stop and have a fight will be the thought crawling through certain tiny minds.
And they wonder why we tend ride in groups…
Just had a message back from
Just had a message back from one of the local papers here, they’re going to run the story with a mug shot to see if anyone recognises the guy
Evening Standard have run the
😉 Evening Standard have run the story http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23969106-road-rage-caught-on-camera-motorist-punches-a-cyclist-and-8201-just-because-he-couldnt-overtake.do but for the record, I am NOT “angry” with the Police. That is possibly a newspaper having a go at the Met. I am disappointed that they have not found the guys yet, but angry with them?, no.
BBC will also be running it later today!
If everyone who reads this can make a charity donation then some good may come out of it after all – a kind of Karma!
http://www.bmycharity.com/L2P24
I wonder if the fella in the
I wonder if the fella in the Peugeot had a day job driving the France TV Citroen in the Tour a couple of days ago?
If you injure/kill a dog, you
If you injure/kill a dog, you must report it. If however you do the same to a cat, there is no legal requirement to do so. Are the police regarding cyclists like cats, and drivers like dogs?
The BBC London news clip is
The BBC London news clip is now on the BBC’s website. The registration number of the the car has, however, been digitally obscured. One can only assume that this was removed to ‘protect’ the ‘innocent’. It’s a funny old world.
They’re probably trying to
They’re probably trying to protect the unfortunate owner of the car – once people realise he’s in the habit of leaving the car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, everyone’s just going to keep stealing his car, assaulting people, and then returning the car.
Great to see the story on the
Great to see the story on the BBC and in the Standard, hope this leads to something positive soon. Shame about some of the (predictable) comments left after the Standard story but to be expected I guess…
Re all the questions about no
Re all the questions about no insurance etc.
When someone commits an offence under the Road Traffic Act and the driver is not known then the Police can serve a form on the owner to say who the driver was or face prosecution for the offence themselves. This refers to the Road Traffic Act and NOT a criminal offence, as they are 2 seperate pieces of legislation.
The owner has been spoken to and claimed that the car had been taken with the keys in and returned later without their permission (a load of bull****) but without evidence to blow their story out of the water the Police haven’t got a hope in hell to get this to court and past the CPS who will refuse to run the case. Everyone knows its rubbish but you cant blame the Police for CPS decisions.
Hope that clears the No Insurance debate.
While ‘the Met’, tries
While ‘the Met’, tries dream-up yet more feeble excuses not to trace ‘punches like a girl’, I feel absolutely convinced that had there been a compulsory helmet law for cyclists, they’d have been out there ticketing cyclists like crazy.
I can’t help wondering if a TWOCed KJ56HGF has been seen parked in the local Freemasons’ Hall car park.
Look at some of the comments
Look at some of the comments on the evening standard site.. Just frightening, the attitude of some people.
These people can vote !?
stuartpeck1 wrote:Look at
whats even more sad is they can breathe 😀
..although not having been
..although not having been physically abused (yet!) by any driver…I did come close a few weeks ago.I’m living over in Ireland (for 11 years now)
Cycling in what can only be described as ‘weather for ducks’ I took exception to a driver of a Mitsubishi L200 warrior.
Having decided he was giving me 4 inches of room as he passed by me, on an empty road- where he could so easily have driven all the way over on the other side of it- he thought it great fun to have gone through a puddle at exactly the moment he passed.
What I can only describe as the feeling of having a bucket of cold dirty water thrown over my head…I wasn’t best pleased…so I let go with a few hand gestures.
Bam on go his brakes right in front of me, as he stops in the middle of the road. So I cycle past him and give him the evil eye. 10 seconds later he draws alongside me with his passenger window down and pointing, shouting abuse at me..now I’m a kick in the arse above 5 ft 3″ and not what you could call ‘intimidating’…so I just let go (in my native Glaswegian accent)…come on then pull over- maybe not a wise choice of words or actions. Maybe it was the Saltire Buff (FREEEEEEEEDOM!) I had around my neck..but he drove off and left me alone. So I have his reg no. but I know it’d be my word against his as to what ‘actually’ happened..and I accept that, the Gardai here wouldn’t run from ther station if it was on fire….
Now the case in point here for the cyclsit that was assaulted- he did not give any form of abuse to the driver (according to stated on here- so it was an unprovoked attack). The owner of the car states that the car was ‘taken without his consent’, but must have been returned by a ‘good samaritan’. The video evidence, I’m presuming proves that it was not the owner of the car, or that he was in the vicinity or had been involved at the time of the assault. Therefore he cannot be charged with ‘knowingly allowing an uninsured person’ access to his car. It appears the police do not want to burn any calories trying to find the 3rd party. So there is really not a lot that can be done legally.
I’m not sure if insurance laws are the same in UK as they are in Ireland. The victim could try claiming against the insured driver’s policy for injuries received…and costs would be met by an insurance bureau. This would then presumably find it’s way onto the owner’s premium at his next renewal. so perhaps some slight financial recompense.
Or …hire a PI to find the address of the owner and have some sort of surveillance set up to see if the assailant ‘makes his way back to the scene of his original crime’ of TWOC’ing… to perhaps find that he is actually known to the car owner, and hence the owner and assailant could both be charged with a number of offences…
So when the person carrying
So when the person carrying out the assault is found and it turns out that the vehicle owner does know the offender then the vehicle owner will also be charged? It can’t be long before the offender is caught.
OldRidgeback – In reality
OldRidgeback – In reality yes, they could be charged with obstruction but again it comes down to the willingness of the CPS to accept the charge and follow through the prosecution.
At one time the Police had the power to charge a punter but the CPS complained as they weren’t hitting their targets for convictions so they and the Govt decided to change it and they make 99% of the decisions now as to who goes to court.
However this case is becoming high profile so the CPS might decide to run it just so that they can say they tried and if it falls at court they can always backpedal and blame the Police.
the assailant has handed
the assailant has handed himself in to the Police and is in custody now – thanks for all the support Road.cc !!!!
Good news Simon.
Good news Simon. http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/9139998.UPDATE__Man_arrested_over_cyclist_road_rage_attack/
Great news. I look forward to
Great news. I look forward to hearing how the story continues to unfold.
-If the vehicle was taken
-If the vehicle was taken then that’s something their insurance company should know about and reflect in the premiums.
-There’s also the detail that mobile phone records can often show the path of a phone round the city, and perhaps correlate it with vehicle movements.