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Not sure if you've seen it but in case you lot haven't, I've challenged TERatcliffe this year to pick a squad of riders and try and run a 'proper' fantasy team through the season.

We'll both be blogging about it through the year and the first posts are up (/blog).  Anyway, you lot are free to pick your own squads too and keep us all informed of how you're doing either on here or in the blog comments.  I've set up a league and if you've got any questions, let me know.

EDIT

If you want to take part the list of rider values you'll need is here http://db.tt/1rO7IFhq and check out my post here /content/blog/74271-big-unveil for rules etc.

RUNNING UPDATE:

World Tour Points - 1037 total / 851 based on top 5 riders

Fantasy points total: 2583

 

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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Just one point on your team Rob, Sky have a classics vs tour set up. JTL is not in the classics, but Rasch is  3

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Good team but a major problem I should have mentioned, because the current TdU prices are reflective of just that race they're not really suitable for the whole season.

Take a look at the link at the end of my blog post here for prices to use http://road.cc/content/blog/74271-big-unveil

I'll also amend the first post to clarify that.

You'll probably need to rework your team a little.

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 3 years ago
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Go on then, give it a go...
348.8 points based on the correct values. 29 riders, since there is one neo pro (I think Cattaneo). I've limited myself to a max of 3 per team. It's probably heavy on classic riders and names I know, rather than being strongly based on form, but who knows, it's a long season.

Mark Cavendish, PC, Omega Pharma-Quick Step, 24.3
due a good year, and with a lead out train, who knows what he might achieve.
Tejay van Garderen, AR, BMC Racing Team, 30.7
if cut loose from Evans, last year showed such promise.
Fabian Cancellara, AR, RadioShack-Leopard, 26.6
again due a good year, and I suspect he will be in transition to a more GC type rider
Thomas de Gendt, AR, Vacansoleil-DCM, 25.9
again performed well last year and has the legs to top 10 in any of the GTs
Jens Voigt, PC, RadioShack-Leopard, 20.9
if this is his last year, it will be a cracker
Jon Tiernan-Locke, PC, Sky, 14
after last year's world champs, should love the classics
Andrew Talansky, DS, Garmin-Sharp, 20.1
another strong GC rider last year
Jakob Fuglsang, DS, Astana, 16.4
time to put his money where his mouth is
Thor Hushovd, DS, BMC Racing Team, 11.9
after illness, this may well be a good year
Marcel Kittel, DS, Argos - Shimano, 9.5
sadly I think he'll see a lot of Cav, Sagan and Degenkolb's back wheels, but at minor tours should hopefully clean up
Maxim Iglinsky, DS, Astana, 9.6
hopefully classics and shorter tours
Jeremy Roy, DS, FDJ-BigMat, 14.8
TdF stage hopefully
Gorka Izagirre, DS, Euskaltel-Euskadi, 17.4
shorter tour stage wins (maybe)
Anthony Roux, DS, FDJ-BigMat, 10.3
another TdF stalwart
Nicki Sorensen, DS, Saxo - Tinkoff, 9.1
towing people uphill
Michael Schar, DS, BMC Racing Team, 6.3
shorter tour stage wins (maybe)
Jose Ivan Gutierrez, DS, Movistar, 7.4
road captain
Mikel Astarloza, DS, Euskaltel-Euskadi, 5.9
road captain, and mountain stages
Johnny Hoogerland, DS, Vacansoleil-DCM, 4.5
spotty jersey type
Alex Dowsett, DS, Movistar, 10.5
maybe will have looser reins for breaks
Christophe Riblon, DS, Ag2r-La Mondiale, 5.4
more TdF goodness
Davide Appollonio, DS, Ag2r-La Mondiale, 6.7
DS
Andy Schleck, PC, RadioShack-Leopard, 3
if he doesn't better last year....
Steve Houanard, DS, Ag2r-La Mondiale, 3
DS
Nicolas Roche, KM, Saxo - Tinkoff, 19.1
being towed halfway up a hill...

Laurent Pichon, DS, FDJ-BigMat, 3
DS
Mattia Cattaneo, DS, Lampre - Merida, 3
DS
Xabier Zandio, DS, Sky, 6.5
super DS
Gabriel Rasch, DS, Sky, 3
DS

EDITS -
after being pointed to the blog post I'd missed (thanks)... I've recalculated and found an extra 17 odd points, so Huguet has been swapped for Roche, and after finding Marzano may have, or may be close to retiring I've swapped in Appollonio, who I hope will be able to thrive outside Sky.

I'm just looking to see if I can set up my purist team with these riders...

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Hugh Lupus [29 posts] 3 years ago
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Hi,
Looks like fun. Is this a 'premium' competition, a 'standard' competition or based on all UCI events (e.g. Tour San Luis is included)

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Hugh Lupus [29 posts] 3 years ago
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Well here is my team.....and we are using a Megabus to transport riders back to the hotel (times of austerity you know...)
Peter Sagan AR 35.4
Alberto Contador GC 35.2
Mark Cavendish PC 24.3
Andre Greipel PC 23.9
Taylor Phinney AR 22.6
Philippe Gilbert AR 22
Luke Durbridge AR 18.2
Jesse Sergent AR 15.7
Leigh Howard AR 15.3
Kevin Seeldraeyers KM 14.9
Yauheni Hutarovich PC 14.9
Tomasz Marczynski KM 14.5
Gustav Erik Larsson DS 13.5
Alessandro Petacchi DS 13.1
Alex Dowsett DS 10.5
Arnaud Demare DS 10.2
Jacopo Guarnieri DS 9.2
Sylvester Szmyd DS 8.7
Steele von Hoff DS 7.6
Johnny Hoogerland DS 4.5
Zak Dempster DS 3.5
Jurgen van de Walle DS 3
Gabriel Rasch DS 3
Andy Schleck DS 3
Juraj Sagan DS 3

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Hugh Lupus [29 posts] 3 years ago
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and for the TDU, Ill pick...

Philippe Gilbert (BMC)
AR Value: 25.7 Form: 17.00 In form rider
Luke Durbridge (GRE)
DS Value: 10.1 Form: 6.80
Andre Greipel (LOT)
PC Value: 36.2 Form: 8.00 In form rider
Jesse Sergent (RSN)
DS Value: 4.7 Form: 0.00
Yauheni Hutarovich (ALM)
PC Value: 21.4 Form: 1.00
Tomasz Marczynski (VCD)
DS Value: 15.7 Form: 9.60
Steele von Hoff (GRM)
DS Value: 11.9 Form: 7.00
Zak Dempster (USA)
DS Value: 5.0 Form: 1.40
Arnaud Demare (FDJ)

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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We are scoring both by fantasy points and UCI points

We hadn't yet decided a full race schedule beyond the fact that me and Drheaton are doing the TDU. We are doing it based round doing the blogs. It will look something like this

Qatar and Oman
PN and TA
classics
Giro
DL and TdS
Tour de France
Vuleta
World Champs and ToB

It may be the case that we score all WT races by UCI points but we hadnt decided that just yet and we have plenty of time till the next WT race

As for declaring teams, that does need to happen, however in most cases your team will pick itself. Only is some of the classics and the GT's is it likely you will have more than 9 riders to choose from

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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Move over Kurt Arvesen, theres a new ds in town.  4 4
Nice start for loopy.

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Hugh Lupus [29 posts] 3 years ago
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Well said j andrew, whoever you are.  3

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Amazingly I can actually put out a pretty strong 7 man team for the ToQ:

Cavendish
Bouhanni
Cancellara
Kittel
Devolder
Lutsenko
Danny Van Poppel

with Betancurt and Baguil as filler to get a legal team.

http://fantasy.road.cc/viewuser?uid=9348

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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WAIT WAIT WAIT.....Qatar is not totally complete yet. Final roster tomorrow hopefully  1

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Amazingly I can actually put out a pretty strong 7 man team for the ToQ:

Cavendish
Bouhanni
Cancellara
Kittel
Devolder
Lutsenko
Danny Van Poppel

with Betancurt and Baguil as filler to get a legal team.

http://fantasy.road.cc/viewuser?uid=9348

I have you down as 5 riders, no van poppel or kittel from your riders there, both are reserves and unlikely to ride

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Booo!

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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And the Hugh Lupus team is likely to be...

Mark Cavendish (OPQ)
Leigh Howard (GRE)
Yauheni Hutarovich (ALM)
Jacopo Guarnieri (AST)
Gabriel Rasch (SKY)
Taylor Phinney (BMC)
Tomasz Marczynski (VCD)
Andy Schleck (RSN)
Zak Dempster (APP)

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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After all the changes I'm restricted to 4 guys now, Cavendish, Cancellara, Bouhanni and Devolder. Not the strong team I was hoping for.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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My team is Degenkolb, Bewley and Kreder

I will put up mine and Drheaton's scores from the TDU later tonight so you guys can compare

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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So for the TDU

Drheaton scored 215 fantasy points and 46 UCI World Tour points

I scored 355 fantasy points but just 31 UCI World Tour points

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Its going to be interesting through the year to see how much disparity there is between fantasy and world tour points for the world tour races.

The next WT race is Paris-Nice though so its fantasy points all the way for Qatar and Oman!

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 3 years ago
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and for me
TDU fantasy 119, world tour 30pts.

told you, stone dead last  1

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 2 years ago
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That's a pointed question, if we're doing this for world tour points should we declare appropriate teams from our squad for the TdU, and so on through the year, keeping track of points earned, or is it world tour points howsoever earned by those riders through the year, or are we using the fantasy league to keep track?

So... If we're declaring teams,

for TdU my 7 man team will be Voigt, de Gendt, Iglinsky, Izagirre, Kittel, Gutierrez, Appollonio

For Tour de San Luis Cavendish, Sorenson, Hushovd and Van Garderen are the only riders I can declare.

Tour of Qatar Cavendish, Cancellara, Appollonio, Rasch, Riblon, Kittel, Schar

Mediterraneo Roux, Roy, Pichon, Hushovd, Schleck, Talansky, Roche

Oman Appollonio, Kittel, Schar, Cancellara

bearing in mind this is all fun, and I'm coming stone dead last anyway...

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 2 years ago
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Just for fun, as DS who would you have entered from your team for races during the season, assuming you were a real World Tour team.
No score limit but keep it real, bearing in mind rider goals and team goals. You also can pick and choose which races you enter from the calendar, so for example with the one day races in mind I've included the Marseille one day, to stretch the legs of those not going to San Luis or Australia. You can also drop races later in the season which are not compulsory for World Tour teams (like San Luis which I nearly dropped). And keep an eye on those air miles, you may not want to fly riders from San Luis to Qatar to the Med to Oman.

For me the team goal is to entertain the spectators, so lots of breaks, lots of combative riding and pleasing the sponsors. Targetted races are the 1 day races and GTs. GT goals will vary but I'd be happy with 1 overall jersey and 1 top 10 GC finish plus say 6-10 GT stages through the year (well I have got Cav). Any more and I'll be hanging out a car window like Marc Madiot

Rider goals - more to be added later after I've 'talked' to the riders. These are hopefully close to the actual rider goals.

Cav in yellow day one and green overall at the TdF.
Cancellara to lose weight and work on beating Gilbert rather than Martin
Voigt to get in every break and have fun
JTL for the Ardennes Classics and the Vuelta
Talansky Paris-Nice, Tour de Romandie, TdF top 10

race entries

I would have made

TdU - 7 riders:
Gutierrez, Kittel, Appolonio, Tiernan Locke, Schleck, Riblon, Pichon

Tour de San Luis - 6 riders
Hushovd, de Gendt, Fuglsang, Cattaneo, Roy, Iglinsky

GP d'Ouverture La Marseillaise - 8 riders
Roy, Roux, Cancellara, Astarloza, Voigt, Izagirre, Sorenson, Dowsett

Tour of Qatar - 8 riders
Cavendish, Voigt, Kittel, Appolonio, Cancellara, Riblon, Pichon, Sorenson

Tour Mediterraneo - 8 riders
Hushovd, de Gendt, Fuglsang, Cattaneo, Roy, Iglinsky, Roux, Dowsett

rest of February calendar for team.
Tour of Oman - 8 riders
Cancellara, Schar, Appollonio, Kittel, Guttierez, Talansky, Cattaneo, Izagirre

Volta ao Algarve
Hushovd, de Gendt, Fuglsang, Cattaneo, Roy, Iglinsky, Roux, Dowsett

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 2 years ago
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Palmares so far
my team is doing well, in the real world, just not in the fantasy or wt
1st stage of Tour de San Luis(Cav) and 2nd overall(van Garderen)
Tour of Qatar overall win(Cav) and 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th stages
La Marseillaise 4th overall(Roux)
Etoile de Besseges 3rd (Roux) and 4th (Roy) overall, 1st and second on final stage (Roux, Roy)
Tour Mediterraneo 3rd stage 2 (Roux), 5th overall (Roche)
Tour of Oman 1st and second stage 1 (Kittel, Appllonio)
Haut Var Stage 1 (Hushovd)

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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UPDATE!

http://road.cc/content/blog/76495-and-breathe

Basically, I'm doing ok, currently 6th in the World Tour rankings (on 46 points) after one race but the real tests are to come.

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robdaykin (not verified) [367 posts] 2 years ago
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Just had a tot up and on provisional start lists I have 16 of my 27 active riders entered in Paris Nice. Knew I'd picked a good team for something... Top 9 riders take me to 180.6 points though, so...

van Garderen, de Gendt, Talansky
Tiernan Locke, Roche, G Izagirre
Kittel, Astarloza, Gutierrez

Astarloza as captain, Kittel as sprinter and hopefully 6, maybe 7 of the top 10 in GC... Hopefully KoM is in there too.

and the other 7?
Voigt, Fuglsang,M Iglinsky, Roy, Cattaneo, N Sorenson and Zandio.

Too much choice aaaaarrrrggggghhhhh!

Trouble is that leaves me with just 6 riders in Tirreno.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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I've got quite a strong squad for PN with 13 riders in total.

GC:
Roche, Westra, Kelderman, Quintana, Talansky

Sprinters:
Bouhanni, Kittel

Classics:
Boonen, Gilbert, Tiernan-Locke

Wildcards:
Barguil, Lutsenko, Cattaneo

So... my team will be:
Roche
Westra
Kelderman
Quintana
Talansky
Bouhanni
Kittel
Tiernan-Locke
Boonen

My quandary is over whether to pick Boonen or not. It's a toss up between him, Gilbert, Barguil and Lutsenko. Barguil/Lutsenko could do something interesting as neo-pro's whereas Boonen/Gilbert are getting ready for the classics. Boonen won a stage last year but I don't see him as being in the same form as last year...

Bah, Boonen it is.

Oh, and for TA I've currently got 9:

Cavendish, Demare, Sammy Sanchez, Jelle Vanendert, Cancellara, Vanmarcke, Nordhaug, Betancurt, Devolder.

Not nearly as strong but not terrible.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 2 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I've got quite a strong squad for PN with 13 riders in total.

GC:
Roche, Westra, Kelderman, Quintana, Talansky

Sprinters:
Bouhanni, Kittel

Classics:
Boonen, Gilbert, Tiernan-Locke

Wildcards:
Barguil, Lutsenko, Cattaneo

So... my team will be:
Roche
Westra
Kelderman
Quintana
Talansky
Bouhanni
Kittel
Tiernan-Locke
Boonen

My quandary is over whether to pick Boonen or not. It's a toss up between him, Gilbert, Barguil and Lutsenko. Barguil/Lutsenko could do something interesting as neo-pro's whereas Boonen/Gilbert are getting ready for the classics. Boonen won a stage last year but I don't see him as being in the same form as last year...

Bah, Boonen it is.

Oh, and for TA I've currently got 9:

Cavendish, Demare, Sammy Sanchez, Jelle Vanendert, Cancellara, Vanmarcke, Nordhaug, Betancurt, Devolder.

Not nearly as strong but not terrible.

Where have you got Talansky from?  39

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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Here

He's listed on Cycling Fever and in the game.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 2 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Here

He's listed on Cycling Fever and in the game.

I mean being in your team, I don't see him on your blog or in the initial list of your riders you sent me, and he isn't in my spreadhseet

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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aw crap  20

I'm not entirely sure where I've pulled that from...

Better make it:

Roche
Westra
Kelderman
Quintana
Boonen
Bouhanni
Kittel
Tiernan-Locke
Barguil

then.

Actually, I'm not too upset because I actually really wanted Barguil in there.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 2 years ago
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One question, how are we doing the classics? Just each race individually?

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