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how about a test of your classic team management skills? for ego, no points involved. Though Dave can test / explain the scoring for 1 day races.

Same rules as usual, 150 points, 4 stars, 5 ds etc.

If I get organised I will do the same for Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne tomorrow (and because it is practise only 6 transfers between races)

So who is in?

here is my team for Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad

Star riders: pick any 4 GC PC KM AR

Philippe Gilbert (BMC)
AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6

Lars Boom (RAB)
AR Value: 20.5 Form: 0.0

Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)
AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6

Sylvain Chavanel (OPQ)
AR Value: 25.2 Form: 4.0
Domestiques: pick any 5 DS

Luca Paolini (KAT)
DS Value: 10.5 Form: 2.6

Sebastien Turgot (EUC)
DS Value: 11.7 Form: 0.0

Christopher Sutton (SKY)
DS Value: 2.8 Form: 9.6

Martin Elmiger (ALM)
DS Value: 3.8 Form: 0.0

Tomas Vaitkus (GRE)
DS Value: 11.4 Form: 0.0

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nigsbrown [17 posts] 5 years ago
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Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Sebastian Langeveld (GRE) AR Value: 14.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0

Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Jan Ghyselinck (COF) DS Value: 6.3
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5
Ramunas Navardauskas (GRM) DS Value: 6.9

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Gkam84 [9097 posts] 5 years ago
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That'll do me nicely Nigs, thanks and there is the reason why this game it not played on the forums  19 19

Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Sebastian Langeveld (GRE) AR Value: 14.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0

Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Jan Ghyselinck (COF) DS Value: 6.3
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5
Ramunas Navardauskas (GRM) DS Value: 6.9

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seabass89 [212 posts] 5 years ago
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Thor Hushovd?

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 5 years ago
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Why can't we include this race, Its one of my favourites, I've been campaigning ever since someone wanted to include the silly races of ToQ and ToO.  2

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JAndrewHill [1211 posts] 5 years ago
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Well here goes for 0 :-

Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6

Greg van Avermaet (BMC)PC Value: 24.7 Form: 4.0

Tom Boonen (OPQ)AR Value: 27.8 Form: 11.0

Philippe Gilbert (BMC)AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6

Christopher Sutton (SKY)DS Value: 2.8 Form: 9.6

Lars Bak (LOT)DS Value: 15.7 Form: 1.0

Johan Vansummeren (GRM)DS Value: 11.8 Form: 1.8
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Stijn Vandenbergh (OPQ)DS Value: 2.7 Form: 1.6

Dirk Bellemakers (LAN)DS Value: 2.5 Form: 0.0

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JAndrewHill [1211 posts] 5 years ago
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Your team is now set GKAM so no copying my inspired picks.

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

That'll do me nicely Nigs, thanks and there is the reason why this game it not played on the forums  19 19

Yes, but new rule, 1st posted wins tie breaker  19

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

Why can't we include this race, Its one of my favourites, I've been campaigning ever since someone wanted to include the silly races of ToQ and ToO.  2

I wanted both Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad & Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne

No luck this year, so this is part of my campaign for next year.

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 5 years ago
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I wanted KBK as well!

we better have schelpergherhjfidhgsdfgis

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nigsbrown [17 posts] 5 years ago
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That'll do me nicely Nigs, thanks
You're welcome, shame you couldn't spare 5 minutes picking your own team but I guess you don't need the practice.

and there is the reason why this game it not played on the forums
Who's playing the game on the forums? This is just a bit of fun for the weekend and an ego boost if my team goes well.

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Gkam84 [9097 posts] 5 years ago
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I wont bother sorting the quotes out, so i'll just reply

The reason I didn't spend 5 mins picking my own team was for two reason's,

1, This race is not in the fantasy game, so i'm not fussed about riders
2, I wanted to make a point, why this game can't be played on forums, like on other sites, I was just waiting for someone to post and team and I would have done the same

Yes its a bit of fun, but ultimately of no consequence to the fantasy game  19

OK, I'll edit my team to not have copied others and cause offence to those who put in "time and effort" to pick a team

Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Greg van Avermaet (BMC)PC Value: 24.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0

Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Christopher Sutton (SKY)DS Value: 2.8
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Martin Elmiger (ALM)DS Value: 3.8
Stijn Vandenbergh (OPQ)DS Value: 2.7

Failing that i'll have

Mr. Tickle 71
Mr. Greedy 71
Mr. Happy 71
Mr. Nosey 71
Mr. Sneeze 71
Mr. Bump 71
Mr. Snow 72
Mr. Messy 72
Mr. Topsy-Turvy 72

The numbers indicate when they were first published, i know it might be slightly against the rules because they all race for the same team "Mr Men"  19

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TERatcliffe26 [4693 posts] 5 years ago
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my team is in:

Tom Boonen (OPQ)

AR Value: 27.8 Form: 11.0

Philippe Gilbert (BMC)

AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6

Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)

AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6

Matti Breschel (RAB)

AR Value: 23.4 Form: 0.0
Domestiques: pick any 5 DS

Gert Steegmans (OPQ)

DS Value: 9.6 Form: 1.8

Johan Vansummeren (GRM)

DS Value: 11.8 Form: 1.8

Baden Cooke (GRE)

DS Value: 5.9 Form: 13.0

Aleksandr Kuschynski (KAT)

DS Value: 3.4 Form: 2.6

Marcel Sieberg (LOT)

DS Value: 6.1 Form: 3.0

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dave atkinson [6297 posts] 5 years ago
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good luck y'all

FYI one day scoring is as follows - note different scores on the line:

Finish line - one day race: Points awarded for the first 20 riders over the line in a one-day race.

The following points will be awarded (1st-20th): 50, 40, 30, 25, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Last man home: 10 points awarded for the last man home on a tour stage or one-day race

Breakaway bonus: 10 points to any rider in a lead breakaway of less than 10 riders that's more than a minute ahead at half distance

Most combative rider: 10 points awarded to the rider adjuged the most combative by the race commissaires

Team bonus: 5 points to each participating member of the winning rider's team

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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last minute change to my team Boonen & Burghardt in, Boom & Vaitkus out: 149.3

Star riders: pick any 4 GC PC KM AR
Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Tom Boonen (RAB) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0
Sylvain Chavanel (OPQ) AR Value: 25.2

Domestiques: pick any 5 DS
Luca Paolini (KAT) DS Value: 10.5
Sebastien Turgot (EUC) DS Value: 11.7
Christopher Sutton (SKY) DS Value: 2.8
Martin Elmiger (ALM) DS Value: 3.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 5 years ago
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Stannard seems pretty excited about it on Twitter  4 4 4

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orli [75 posts] 5 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

The following points will be awarded (1st-20th): 50, 40, 30, 25, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Ouch! That's a lot of points, Dave! Too many, in my opinion! It's kind of crazy! Can't we go back to something a little less onerous and pack the points a little closer to keep the competition closer and within reach if you mess up a little in your picks? It's painful!  1

dave_atkinson wrote:

Breakaway bonus: 10 points to any rider in a lead breakaway of less than 10 riders that's more than a minute ahead at half distance

Just wondering, are there sprints in the middle of Classics races? 'Cause if there are, why offer these points?

On the other hand, why more than a minute ahead? 30 seconds is ok... And why would it matter if the break is less than 10 riders? I say give everyone in the front group at the halfway mark 5 points! Yeah, I'm being picky, I just think the game will just explode and the gaps will become tremendous with all these points on offer. I'd rather have a close game than 'uncatchable' leads...

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Gkam84 [9097 posts] 5 years ago
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Thats the points for Classic's Orli, not stage races

There were points for breakaway's last year aswell

But i do agree with the gaps, its a bit OTT on the points side

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JAndrewHill [1211 posts] 5 years ago
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Just heard that one of GKAMs picks is not starting today.
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Mr Sneeze has come down with a virus.
So I suggest he picks Chris Sutton instead.  3

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

The following points will be awarded (1st-20th): 50, 40, 30, 25, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

orli wrote:

Ouch! That's a lot of points,

The maths says otherwise

Compare it to the first stage in a stage race
1st 50 = 35 for win + 10 for 1st in GC + 5 for 1st points
2nd 43 = 30 for 2nd + 9 for 2nd in GC + 4 for 2nd in points
3rd 36 = 25 for 3rd + 8 for 3rd in GC + 3 for 3rd in points etc.
Then you have the young riders & KOM comp

So picking the winner of Paris Roubaix or Ronde Van Vlaanderen is worth as much as picking the winner of the first stage of the Tour of Qatar or Tour of Bejing

The 10 pts halfway bonus is in exchange for KOM & Sprint points you get in stage races, and it will only happen some of the time, not every race.

I like the points for the one day races

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dave atkinson [6297 posts] 5 years ago
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Ouch! That's a lot of points, Dave!

it's not: the classics last year scored lower than most stages of the main tours. hence the points increase to keep them on par

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dave atkinson [6297 posts] 5 years ago
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On the other hand, why more than a minute ahead? 30 seconds is ok... And why would it matter if the break is less than 10 riders? I say give everyone in the front group at the halfway mark 5 points!

the rules are there so that we can be clear what constitutes a break for the purposes of the game. you have to draw the line somewhere. taking your argument to its logical conclusion, if 100 riders were in the front group and 3 were in a group 5 seconds off the back, those 100 riders would all get 'breakaway' points.

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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After 32km breakaway of 7 have lead of over 3 minutes

David Boucher of FDJ - Big Mat, Davide Ricci Bitti of Farnese Vini-Selle Italia, Sven Vandousselaere of Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator, Andy Cappelle can Accent Jobs-Willems Veranda's, Lieuwe Westra of Vacansoleil-DCM, Florian Vachon of Brittany-Schuller & Marco Haller, Team Katusha,

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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37km and over 5 minutes, looking like a long day in the saddle for those 7 and 10pts each (in 63kn time) , and no team will score

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 5 years ago
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Sorry i'm late, punctured on the way to the forum  22

Tom Boonen (OPQ)
Matti Breschel (RAB)
Greg van Avermaet (BMC)
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)
Mathew Hayman (SKY)
Linus Gerdemann (RSN)
Martin Elmiger (ALM)
Dominique Rollin (FDJ)
Gustav Erik Larsson (VCD)

No thought went into this

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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gap is down to 10 minutes 73km in (and 23km to half way point)

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Gkam84 [9097 posts] 5 years ago
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http://www.procyclinglive.com/livestream/

Live streams if you want it in Cloggy, Onions and Garlic, Waffles or Pasta  19

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 5 years ago
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Hoog do doog de met do droopels Katusha grog to kilonetres
twee sky loch tok meet etc etc, westra etc. Live piccies yeh.

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nickobec [246 posts] 5 years ago
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1o pts for arriving at the halfway point with a better than 1 minute lead

David Boucher of FDJ - Big Mat,
Davide Ricci Bitti of Farnese Vini-Selle Italia,
Sven Vandousselaere of Topsport Vlaanderen-Mercator,
Andy Cappelle can Accent Jobs-Willems Veranda's,
Lieuwe Westra of Vacansoleil-DCM,
Florian Vachon of Brittany-Schuller
Marco Haller, Team Katusha,

livestream on sporza.be not geo restricted in Flemish though

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TERatcliffe26 [4693 posts] 5 years ago
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where is tomorrow's team being posted, and 6 transfers correct?

Also no-one has any of the breakaway riders so need to worry about those points. Would you like me to do the points at the end of the race today, i will be free to do that?

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 5 years ago
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a few threads down from this one Ter

and aye

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