Tesla investigation deepens… (Graundia)

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    brooksby

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/09/tesla-autopilot-crashes-investigation-nhtsa

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    US federal regulators are deepening their investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot function after more than a dozen Tesla cars crashed into parked first-responder vehicles over a period of four years.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Thursday it was upgrading its preliminary investigation, which launched last August, to an “engineering analysis”, which is taken before the agency determines a recall.

    The investigation covers all four Tesla vehicles – Models Y, X, S and 3 – representing about 830,000 vehicles that have been sold in the US.

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    hawkinspeter
    John Stevenson wrote:
    And never will, full self-driving being a techno-utopian fantasy that requires strong AI

    The only difference between Musk and Holmes is therefore the degree of deception in the grift.

    Self driving certainly seems like a tough problem, but I don’t see why it would require “strong AI” (presumably human-level general intelligence). Certainly, there’s plenty of creatures with much smaller brains than us that can navigate perfectly well (e.g. a squirrel finding their way through a maze).

    To my mind, the big problem with Tesla’s AI is that they’re just using video cameras and trying to identify everything visually which as CAPTCHAs demonstrate is something we haven’t solved with computers yet. Fitting LIDAR, although expensive, gives much better 3D information about the surroundings.

    I’m still holding out for flying cars though – I’m sure we were promised that as kids.

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/maxresdefault-3623000352.jpeg

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    Rich_cb

    There are level 4 autonomous
    There are level 4 autonomous taxi services up and running right now.

    It’s not a fantasy. It’s already happening.

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    John Stevenson
    Secret_squirrel wrote:
    False comparison.  Holmes had a product that didnt work at all.  Musk has a very decent electric car that doesn’t yet self drive.

    And never will, full self-driving being a techno-utopian fantasy that requires strong AI

    The only difference between Musk and Holmes is therefore the degree of deception in the grift.

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    Secret_squirrel

    False comparison.  Holmes had

    False comparison.  Holmes had a product that didnt work at all.  Musk has a very decent electric car that doesnt yet self drive.

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    AlsoSomniloquism

    That can’t be right. 4 years

    That can’t be right. 4 years ago Musk told everyone to get a tesla and turn it into a Taxi becuse the ROI of a self driving taxi would pay for itself in less then 12 months. And the technology was “available now”.

    I still can’t believe he gets away with all his bullshit when to me there is no difference between him and  Elizabeth Holmes in them claiming stuff to Stock holders and the public which are blatant falsehoods. 

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