[Rendel Harris]

Morning all,

I was hoping someone could kindly clear a rather confusing matter for me on behalf of a friend (I know everyone says that but it’s true!). Mate was cycling to work last week when he ran a red light (usual excuses, long straight empty road, person who’d pushed the pelican button had already crossed – he’s been told off) with a police car directly behind him. Stopped, quite correctly bollocked and told he’ll be getting a fine in the post. Letter arrived yesterday (see relevant section below) with an FPN of £100 and three points on his licence. He’s happy to put his hands up and pay the fine, but I thought – and every online source seems to agree – that you can’t be pointed for offences on a bicycle? Does anyone have any idea if this is permitted?

Thanks!

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[IanMSpencer]

Realised I didn’t give the

Realised I didn’t give the best advice – go to pepipoo.com and ask there – they will be helpful.

[Rendel Harris]

Thanks both, I think you’re

Thanks both, I think you’re right, they’ve entered PEDALCYCLE as his reg number! Doubtless will take months to sort out…

[IanMSpencer]

It looks like the FPN is a
It looks like the FPN is a standard one for motor vehicles and the policeman has simply pressed a button to produce it.

I think my starting point would be to check that the various statements made on it are all applicable to pedal cycles, e.g. the sections of law, do they apply to motorised vehicles? If there are errors due to the wrong notification being made then the NIP is invalid.

A Google suggests points cannot be given for cycling offences, including red light jumping being specifically mentioned by Cycling UK, but I would not rely on Google in court!

So my guess is that the NIP is invalid.

[mdavidford]

Looks like it may well be a

Looks like it may well be a pro forma that expects the vehicle to be a car – where it says PEDALCYCLE would be where the vehicle reg would go – and whoever issued it didn’t pay enough attention to amend the penalty details.

[Rendel Harris]

Letter:

Letter:

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