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April 28, 2022 at 8:57 am #32065
OldRidgeback
One driver penalised for causing a cyclist to fall off her bike complains he has been penalised too heavily….
‘I was banned from driving for three years for knocking a cyclist off her bike but still believe I shouldn’t have been punished’ (msn.com)
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Tom_77
Probably “cautioned” means
Probably “cautioned” means interviewed under caution. Article says he was convicted of dangerous driving.
Not clear if the 2nd ban was for a single speeding offence, or for multiple offences.
chrisonabike
No shortage of folks who
No shortage of folks who think that confessing a crime is actually worthy of a medal. Or at the very least “no punishment I can impose will outweigh the burden you have of knowing that you have done wrong… so let that be all”.
It’s quite a common trope in human affairs. Indeed our own courts separate the finding of guilt or innocence from sentencing. Maybe we should dispense with the second part and save money!
jh2727
Also how long ago was all
Also how long ago was all this, if the fine for speeding was only £30?
I’m guessing that’s down to the offenders ignorance though, because if it all happened at a time when the minimum fine for speeding was £30, that would surely predate dash cams.
Rendel Harris
chrisonatrike wrote:“I was found guilty and it was true, I did it – but I still don’t think I should have been done for this”. Apparently this is a very popular attitude…It was the same one shown by the Range Rover vs Insulate Britain protestors school-run mum, wasn’t it – but I thought her case was extra special because she actually pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and then said her driving ban was a “huge injustice”!
chrisonabike
“I was found guilty and it
“I was found guilty and it was true, I did it – but I still don’t think I should have been done for this”. Apparently this is a very popular attitude…
brooksby
Don’t forget the bit where
Don’t forget the bit where his ban was extended because he was caught speeding again within one week of returning to the roads…
(edit) And he admits he was “only” driving 5 mph over the 20mph limit. So, 25% over the limit. But that’s OK because he thinks everyone does it…

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brooksby
Dammit!
Dammit!
Hirsute
25% !
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jh2727
The article says “Video
The article says “Video footage from a passing cars’ dashcam was sent to police and he was later cautioned and also lost his licence for three years.”
I’m pretty sure you can’t be prosecuted for an action once you’ve admitted a caution – unless it is like a suspended sentence? I.e. it seems reasonable that doing the same thing again would be grounds for nullifying the caution.
“He was taken to court and given a two year banning order for dangerous driving. He was then given another year because he sped in his first week of returning to the roads.”
Okay, so not a three year ban then. And probably not for dangerous driving, more likely for careless driving (because we all know how rare dangerous driving prosecutions are (it would have had to have been really bad for the CPS to prosecute and then be sucessfully prosecuted)). So in all likelihood he probably accrued points for other offences which he’s neglected to mention, then been probably. The ban was two years so probably not his first ban under the totting up scheme.
“He claims he has to drive for his job”
So he probably didn’t serve the first two bans (which would have probably been 6 and 12 months) due to claimed undue hardship, 3rd time round the judge was having none of it. His fourth ban, for 12 months, probably came 3 years after the first two bans so they had expired, hence it was only 12 months.
I’m guessing he’s probably accrued 20+ points in his driving ‘career’ for speeding, careless driving and probably mobile phone use. And he probably still sees himself as a victim. The only surprise was that he was caught speeding a week after getting his licence back, and not at some point whilst he was banned – I suppose that whilst he was banned, he probably wasn’t driving a vehicle that was registered to him.
hawkinspeter
brooksby wrote:Don’t forget the bit where his ban was extended because he was caught speeding again within one week of returning to the roads…(edit) And he admits he was “only” driving 5 mph over the 20mph limit. So, 20% over the limit. But that’s OK because he thinks everyone does it…

He’s the kind of driver that gives drivers a bad name (or does that collective bullship only work with cyclists?)
Awavey
Not the sharpest driver on
Not the sharpest driver on the planet when he thinks he shouldn’t have been banned but just given 6 points for both offences…and I suspect he already had accumulated points at that stage.
peted76
Clueless twunt.
Clueless twunt.
hawkinspeter
Speeding and “the man claims
Speeding and “the man claims he didn’t actually see the woman before, after or during the event he was later banned because of”.
Considering that the main evidence was dash-cam footage (from a passing car) I fail to see how he can dispute it. If he’s unable to recognise the danger he created, then maybe he needs a much longer driving ban – put him on a bike and let him learn some roadcraft before allowing him back in charge of tonnes of speeding death metal.
mdavidford
On that evidence, I think his
On that evidence, I think his liscensce should be confiscated indefinitely, as he’s clearly demonstrated that he has no idea of what an acceptable standard of driving is, and therefore isn’t a fit person to be in charge of a motor vehicle.
Daveyraveygravey
I was just reading that!
I was just reading that! What a snivelling little shit he is. More proof, if any were needed, of how badly some treat driving. He admits to speeding and still thinks the punishment was unfair. Mind you, this level of punishment should be handed out more frequently, then people might start to drive properly.
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