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Read the story here. Unable to discuss the story there so I am posting a thread about it here.

Charging an officer for knocking down a burglar seems so wrong. Why have police if they are to be prosecuted for actually doing something useful. No wonder so many incidents are not properly investigated. Such things as this are a huge disincentive.

The man was a burglar so why does it matter so much that he gets injured? If he didn’t commit a crime he wouldn’t have been chased and come a cropper.  Who makes these decisions?! Brain damaged snowflakes probably.

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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Brain damaged snowflakes probably.

Maybe move to America and then you can support Police who shoot unarmed people because they look shifty, then get cleared because they mention they felt there life was in danger. Or back to the 70’s where the serious crime squad lived up to their moniker and committed serious crimes forcing confessions.

The incidents earlier this year were going too far. A certain person who got killed by police was already restrained. There is no way that can be justified which ever angle you look at it. There is a line to be drawn. Action needs to be taken if an individual is a hazard to society. Someone fleeing from police is just that. The degree of force being used should be proportionate to the level of threat the suspect poses. In this case I feel it was, and this is what I am trying to argue.

WiznaeMe wrote:

Force used has to be proportionate. If a person was threatening to stab people then  it might be appropriate to hit them at low speed with a car to save lives.  If it’s ok to hit suspects with cars then why stop at burglars; what if the suspect has stolen a wallet or items from a shop.  It’s all a matter of fact and circumstance. 

Good point. I sort of took that bit for granted when making this thread. I also made the assumption that the burglar was either caught red handed, or otherwise certain to be an actual burglar.  The fact that the suspect was fleeing from police is a decent indicator that he is not a saint.

 

[AlsoSomniloquism]

Brain damaged snowflakes

Brain damaged snowflakes probably.

Maybe move to America and then you can support Police who shoot unarmed people because they look shifty, then get cleared because they mention they felt there life was in danger. Or back to the 70’s where the serious crime squad lived up to their moniker and committed serious crimes forcing confessions.

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There was a good long read

There was a good long read article about this sort of issue last year: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jul/02/deaths-uk-police-pursuits-chases

Key points:

• The police aren’t above the law
• There is the potential for entirely innocent parties to be injured/killed
• Policing/use of force should be proportionate

[shoko]

Perhaps it’s should be for

Perhaps it should be for the court to decide whether the guy was a burgler or not? Or should we allow the police to decide who is guilty or innocent, I’m sure that’d work out well…

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Force used has to be

Force used has to be proportionate. If a person was threatening to stab people then  it might be appropriate to hit them at low speed with a car to save lives.  If it’s ok to hit suspects with cars then why stop at burglars; what if the suspect has stolen a wallet or items from a shop.  It’s all a matter of fact and circumstance. 

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