Magistrate Believes Fairy Tales

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    Hirsute

    Bit harsh. HP was clearly

    Bit harsh. HP was clearly tongue in cheek or sarcasm or plain despair !

    #986363
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    chrisonabike
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    Great – so company directors can get away with breaking the law now?

    Are consequences just for wage slaves?

    I suggest you never read Private Eye. Or even look at the news…

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    chrisonabike

    Sadly not a shock – don’t

    Sadly not a shock – don’t forget magistrates are volunteers. Plenty of eyebrow-raising tales from the magistrates courts.

    This points again for the need for better enforcement. If this chap had been banned there’s no guarantee he wouldn’t ignore that. The odds of getting away with that would be in his favour.  If found driving again it’s perfectly possible (cf the people with 20 points on their licences) that the punishment would in no way stop him driving. “Now don’t do it again this time…”

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    Owd Big 'Ead

    I know two people personally

    I know two people personally who have accumulated over 12 points, but both are still on the roads, Both have amassed these points from continually racking up speeding tickets, yet the judges softly-softly approach doesn’t appear to change their behaviour.

    Either large brown envelopes are being exchanged, or society is so inured to reckless driving that we take it for granted.

    The judges in these cases are being made to look like fools. I suggest they grow a pair and start handing out sentences that act as an actual deterrent. Until then, road safety for all users will never change.

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    hawkinspeter
    EK Spinner wrote:
    If we really must (big big If) keep letting these idiots back on the roads when they would normally be banned, perhaps the courts should be able putting further conditions on these special sentences, like maximum engine capacity/power. Or even that any further infractions will get double the normal sentence (including length of driving ban)

    Doubling the sentence won’t do anything if they can just claim the same defense. What’s needed is for magistrate to be held accountable for not dispensing justice.

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    EK Spinner

    If we really must (big big If

    If we really must (big big If) keep letting these idiots back on the roads when they would normally be banned, perhaps the courts should be able putting further conditions on these special sentences, like maximum engine capacity/power. Or even that any further infractions will get double the normal sentence (including length of driving ban)

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    AlsoSomniloquism

    So doesn’t get travel

    So doesn’t get travel sickness if driving, but does if a passenger.

    just get him one of these for the back seat then.

     

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    #986351
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    hawkinspeter

    Great – so company directors

    Great – so company directors can get away with breaking the law now?

    Are consequences just for wage slaves?

    #986349
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    Hirsute

    Is he allowed Christmas day
    Is he allowed Christmas day off ?
    He is clearly not allowed any holiday or sick leave.

    #986347
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    Oldfatgit

    “If he lost his driving

    “If he lost his driving licence, his company would collapse, Harrogate magistrates heard.

    He said it currently employs 320 people and he has held a driving licence for 24 years.”

    Employ someone else and call them “Driver”.

    Why would betablockers prevent him from entering a site? 
    Is there no-one in construction with dodgy hearts?
    Would be interesting to see what medical evidence was asked for and submitted to state that betablockers would prevent him from being allowed on a buildingsite.

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    iandusud

    You’re forgetting that this a

    You’re forgetting that this a fairy tale. This sort of thing doesn’t happen in real life.

    #986343
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    brooksby

    I wonder how his site

    I wonder how his site managers feel, knowing that the clients refuse to discuss things with them but will only speak to a director and in person? I thought that that was what site managers were *for*?

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    iandusud

    Exactly. 

    Exactly. 

    #986339
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    wycombewheeler

    so due the number os sites he

    so due the number os sites he needs to attend in a week it’s highly likely he will continue speeding to meet his schedule.

    along with a string of ridiculous claims, clients who will not deal with directors only managers.

    If a ban was an option either he wason his 4th (or greater) speeding offence, or he was significantly over the 70mph limit, (perhaps 100)

    Why do they keep accepting that it is the courts responsibility to consider the consequences of a ban, when clearly the driver has had ample time to learn and amend their behaviour.

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    David9694

    I’m unclear from this how

    I’m unclear from this how/whether a ban was a possibility – seems like a reasonably decent penalty and that court didn’t believe a word of this nonsense.

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