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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8713579/Fury-FIRE-ENGINE-gets-stuck-new-cycle-lane-Covid-friendly-traffic-measures.html

 

no, the fire engine is stuck because there is a car parked in the road, and then some more parked in the road on the other side. If those cars were on driveways, the fire engine could get through. On road parking creates problems for everyone, including the emergency services. No driveway or dedicated off road space= no car. Problem solved.  The ”stay at home mother” states with her three kids she can’t cycle as she has to do a big weekly shop. No you don’t. You don’t HAVE to do a big weekly shop. You choose to. If you go to the shop every two days, you could easily carry enough stuff back on a bicycle with panniers. If you have the kids with you, then use the bus and only buy enough for one to two days. The idea of needing a car just because you choose to buy enough items in one go for a week is stupid. People didn’t do a big weekly shop in the 50’s and 60’s, they walked with a pram or got on the bus or cycled to the highstreet, bought their items, and went home. Why is it suddenly different?

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[David9694]

when you look around, you

when you look around, you start to notice how many houses are 100% paved out front, and how many there are with 4+ cars parked – it must all point to more lone driver journeys.

[David9694]

Home delivery?

Home delivery?

[wycombewheeler]

I think in the 50s and 60s it

I think in the 50s and 60s it was far less normal for two adults in a household to both be working, leaving one 40 hours a week for home maintenance and shopping. Going out sepeartely to butchers, bakers, greengorcers etc and picking up fresh food (large fridge freezers also far less common) every day or two was also a source of social interaction. Most people don’t live like that now, and in fact can’t afford to. Who can buy or rent a family home on a single salary these days?

Not to mention we are currently asked to limit social interaction so going to several different shops daily is undesirable.

However this ‘stay at home mum’ complaing the school run now takes half an hour instead of 10 minutes should be considering how long it would take to walk, instead of jumping in the car and moaning about how bad it is to drive.

[OnYerBike]

To be fair, I do a big shop

To be fair, I do a big shop most weeks, and as often as not it’s the only time the car gets used the whole week. It’s not “suddenly” different from the 50’s and 60’s, but there has been half a century of gradual change. Whether you like it or not, I think it’s fair to say that trying to do “normal” grocery shopping on a high street is a terrible experience. 

That said, there’s a lot of rubbish in that article:

Firstly, if that lady wants to drive to the supermarket, she still can! With most/all LTNs (certainly with that one), there is still vehicular access to every street, you might just have to take a slightly longer route.

While a weekly shop is a reasonable excuse (IMHO) there are many others that aren’t – so many people are annoyed that their journey has got a bit longer by car, and simply can’t conceive that they might be better off using a different means of transport to get there.

It’s incredible frustrating how many “news articles” there are about emergency services being hindered by LTNs/other active transport measures, when time and time again what is actually slowing them down is the massive traffic jam of cars and/or vast number of parked cars. I’ll admit that some of the current measures might not have been completely well thought out, but generally I understand councils always consider emergency vehicle access and have a range of options to allow emergency access whilst preventing normal traffic (e.g. removable bollards).

And finally, this particular piece of “fury” appears to have resulted from the firecrew having to walk ~50m in order to help some thick plank who’d locked themselves out.

[don simon fbpe]

Daily Mail?
‘Nuff said.

Daily Mail?

‘Nuff said.

[Hirsute]

“You don’t HAVE to do a big
“You don’t HAVE to do a big weekly shop. ”
Well, in the current climate, that may be the best way to reduce risk. You don’t know if they are also in some at risk category.

[David9694]

“What do we want?” “Other

“What do we want?” “Other people’s cars outside our houses!”
 

Wow, didn’t know the fire brigade even came out to person locked out.

It’s quite an extensive piece, goes on to talk about Poole. I presume, David Rides, that how you came by it?

(emphasis added:)

Meanwhile the London Fire Bridge (LFB) said the incident involving the stuck fire engine in Ferndale happened when firefighters were attending a person locked out of their home six doors down from where the fire engine was pictured. 

A spokesperson said: ‘There was no delay to our attendance and there was no damage to the fire engine or the parked cars.’

The outrage over the LTNs continues as residents in London are said to be planning a series of protests this weekend against various schemes in their area.

Protests are set to take place outside town halls in Lambeth, Islington, Ealing and Wandsworth, among other places. 

[Hirsute]

https://youtu.be/0RPN5AvM-HY
https://youtu.be/0RPN5AvM-HY

The fire engine isn’t stuck, the driver decided not to crush the white car.
What is the point of the planter if it only blocks one side of the road?

[ktache]

Fine rant sir.

Fine rant sir.

Please don’t ever linnk to the Mail, cut and paste the text or give us the gist.

Not going to that nasty place…

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