Fairy Liquid is FINE

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    KiwiMike

    I’m just going to leave this here…

    The claim Fairy Liquid Will Eat Your Bike due to ‘salt’ is an urban myth that needs to die, before anyone wastes any more cash on ‘bike-specific cleaners’.

    I have washed all of our many bikes using Fairy liquid or Ecover for decades. I’ve never found any evidence of corrosion, paint, laquer or decal wear, or any sign of anything. I regularly service forks and bearings, swapping a lot of gear, and everything has always been fine.

    Here’s far too much info below – long story short, Fairy liquid in 5L of hot water has a borderline-homeopathic amount of salt, it’s fine to use on a bike.

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    The honest answer is that neither Fairy nor Ecover publicly disclose the actual sodium chloride concentration in the consumer products I could find. The safety data sheets list hazardous ingredients above reporting thresholds, but sodium chloride is not reported for either product.

    However, we can put some realistic bounds on it.

    Fairy Original

    The SDS lists:
    Sodium laureth sulfate: 20-30%

    Lauramine oxide: 5-10%

    Alcohol: 1-5%


    No sodium chloride is declared.

    In detergent formulations, sodium chloride is commonly used as a viscosity modifier (thickener) and is typically present at around 0.5-3%, sometimes lower. The absence of declaration suggests it is either not present or present at a low concentration that does not require reporting. This range is an informed formulation estimate, not a value stated by Fairy.

    Ecover

    The Ecover ingredient information lists:
    Sodium lauryl sulfate

    Lauryl glucoside

    Cocamidopropyl betaine

    Alcohol

    Lactic acid

    Sodium octyl sulphate


    Again, no sodium chloride is listed.

    Ecover’s formulations tend to rely more heavily on plant-derived surfactants and may use little or no salt for thickening, but I could not find a published concentration.

    What does this mean for bike washing?

    Let’s assume a worst-case 3% salt content in Fairy.

    If you add:
    10 mL Fairy to a 5-litre bucket


    Then salt introduced would be approximately:
    10 mL × 3% ≈ 0.3 g salt


    Distributed through 5 L water


    ≈ 60 mg/L salt


    For comparison:
    Typical seawater: ~35,000 mg/L


    Lightly salted winter road spray: often hundreds to thousands of mg/L


    The wash bucket above: ~60 mg/L


    So even under a pessimistic assumption, the salt concentration is hundreds to thousands of times lower than the salt exposure your bike gets from winter roads.
    From a corrosion perspective, the quantity of salt introduced by washing-up liquid is essentially negligible compared with:
    Riding on salted roads

    Coastal spray

    Leaving winter grime on the bike


    Therefore my practical conclusion remains:
    ✅ Fairy or Ecover in a wash bucket is extremely unlikely to contribute any measurable corrosion risk.
    ✅ The important thing is rinsing and drying afterwards.
    ✅ Winter road salt is the real enemy, not washing-up liquid.

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    bikeman01

    Its noty the salt that is the issue. Any salt is washed away when the bike is rinsed.

    The issue with washing up liquid is the degreaser and the surfactant which allows the degreaser to penetrate bearings easily.

    DO NOT USE WASHING UP LIQUID. THE OP IS WRONG.

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    Beatnik69

    I would imagine that even if there is any salt in Fairy Liquid, when you wash and then rinse your bike, it’s not going to be on long enough to cause any serious damage.

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    ktache

    Cheers Mike, good to know, nice guesstimations. Would NaCl need to be listed as it might not be classified as an active ingredient?
    Back when I used to clean my chains, using a park scrubber and finish lines citrus, I would use a good squirt of fairy into hot water as a cleaner after the expensive stuff. With a good couple of rinses with hot water. Developed this step when finish line changed their formulation at some point to be a little less powerful, the standard rinsing just wasn’t doing enough.
    Of course now that all three bikes drivetrains are run on Synergetic the scrubber has ceased to be needed, what with it’s superior lubrication and self cleaning properties…
    I’m not big on cleaning the rest of the bike, I have a strange belief that a clean bike is more attractive to the scrotes, but I did get some gtechniq bikewash for getting the filth off the rims before changing the tubeless tyres for the seasons, don’t need much so it will last forever. Did pick up a very effective big dishmatic brush on offer at Waitrose for this task, a dedicated bike specific brush seemed unnecessary.

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