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November 13, 2013 at 2:37 pm #20202
pete5
Please excuse the one time post. I didn’t know where the best place was to share this
In a week where a large number of cyclists have been crushed by the motorist, I read the Worcester News has declared war on cyclists, urges motorists to treat cyclists as a nuisance. Is it any wonder why the motorist pays us scant regard.
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/features/fairpoint/10800707.Cyclists_are_a_nuisance_on_the_road/
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William Black
Cyclist wrote:Just wrote this
Cyclist wrote:Just wrote this to the editor, and I also asked if James would like to meet for coffee.“I would rather see more fat people than cyclists.
What is it about climbing into a saddle that suddenly causes human beings to abandon common sense, reason and common courtesy? Is there some hidden property in Lycra that turns people into complete prats?”
So not only has your buffoon of a correspondent ( I use that term loosely ) personally insulted me but 100% of the cyclists in the UK (amazing power twitter and forums have ) but also Sir Bradley Wiggins, Sir Chris Hoy, Victoria Pendelton and the entire British cycling programme.
5 cyclists killed in London over the last 9 days. So I have too ask, are you as insensitive and unbelievably thick as your correspondent? What if we turn that article on its head and write that way about fat/obese/immigration etc do you think that there would be no repercussions?
I understand that James must have studied exceedingly hard for his degree in The Atomic structure of a paper clip and it’s effects on global warming. But, did he not think that “I would rather see more fat people than cyclists.” Is also offensive to that group which I might add is currently running at around 40% of British people.
You sir a simply not doing your job of editing, or you agree with his article, which makes it even more unacceptable.
I call for this idiots resignation.
My concerns about your paper will be posted on every cycling website/forum/twitter etc and I will also be contacting my MP.
Mark Cooper
A very fit strong athletic Middle Aged Man in Lycra, who would along with many others like to share a coffee with James, and have a chat about his views. And to offer him some advice about how to lose his chubby cheeks.
Damn, I wish I’d used this as my opening gambit!
Cyclist
Just wrote this to the
Just wrote this to the editor, and I also asked if James would like to meet for coffee.“I would rather see more fat people than cyclists.
What is it about climbing into a saddle that suddenly causes human beings to abandon common sense, reason and common courtesy? Is there some hidden property in Lycra that turns people into complete prats?”
So not only has your buffoon of a correspondent ( I use that term loosely ) personally insulted me but 100% of the cyclists in the UK (amazing power twitter and forums have ) but also Sir Bradley Wiggins, Sir Chris Hoy, Victoria Pendelton and the entire British cycling programme.
5 cyclists killed in London over the last 9 days. So I have too ask, are you as insensitive and unbelievably thick as your correspondent? What if we turn that article on its head and write that way about fat/obese/immigration etc do you think that there would be no repercussions?
I understand that James must have studied exceedingly hard for his degree in The Atomic structure of a paper clip and it’s effects on global warming. But, did he not think that “I would rather see more fat people than cyclists.” Is also offensive to that group which I might add is currently running at around 40% of British people.
You sir a simply not doing your job of editing, or you agree with his article, which makes it even more unacceptable.
I call for this idiots resignation.
My concerns about your paper will be posted on every cycling website/forum/twitter etc and I will also be contacting my MP.
Mark Cooper
A very fit strong athletic Middle Aged Man in Lycra, who would along with many others like to share a coffee with James, and have a chat about his views. And to offer him some advice about how to lose his chubby cheeks.
theoxfordcyclist
theoxfordcyclist
William Black
I have no idea why he even
I have no idea why he even brought up the North, maybe he was suggesting that northerners are more manly? I don’t know, I didn’t bring up the fact I was born in Blackburn raised in Sheffield…it seemed pointless, anyway my reply from their editor:|Please accept my apologies if you felt the e-mail from James contained a threat.
I have spoken to him and I am sure that was not his intention. II believe he has already reassured you of that separately.
James was making a point about the fact that most of the e-mails he has received – some of them vulgar, offensive and threatening – are anonymous and is questioning the sort of debate that happens in anonymous e-mails rather than when people are face to face.
The terminology he used in his e-mail to you was inappropriate.
The original article was a personal opinion piece and written in a style that indicated it was not meant to be taken literally, or too seriously.
I have stated the paper’s view in our leader column and we are currently publishing several letters replying to it.
I am happy to offer you the same right of reply if you would like to send me a letter for publication.
I hope you can accept my apology and assure you we welcome feedback.”
So your fairly standard, we stand by our editorial content because it was ‘tongue in cheek’ reply.
Maybe one day attitudes like this little pricks will change.
farrell
notfastenough
notfastenough wrote:Brilliant, we’ve gone from a veiled threat to “you come and say that to my face, and I’ll repeat this nonsense to your face! So there!”Do I now have to be embarassed to be “from the North”?
Since when has Worcester been “The North”? Surely that’s barely tipping the midlands?
This fella is just coming across more and more as a bad, bad, bell end.
*Edit*
He was quite positive about cyclists a year ago:
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Christ almighty, William Black’s not held back! It looks like he’s gone up to give him a kicking and made a right mess of his face: http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/letters/read/biog/3801/
“Eh? Whaddya mean that’s his normal face?
southseabythesea
Indeed, get a name for
Indeed, get a name for yourself by having a pop at cyclists in the same week as the ninth death is announced in London. I can think of many names for James Connell, but he’s probably not going to like any of them. Sad really.timbola
Just emailed a complaint
Just emailed a complaint 🙂notfastenough
Brilliant, we’ve gone from a
Brilliant, we’ve gone from a veiled threat to “you come and say that to my face, and I’ll repeat this nonsense to your face! So there!”Do I now have to be embarassed to be “from the North”?
William Black
notfastenough wrote:A nice
notfastenough wrote:A nice little (large?) group doing the same, all at the same time, would be amusing.Oh, and I’d happily say it to his face. This strikes me as the same sort of mentality that results in the “I’ll show him, the skinny bloke in lycra” [makes punishment pass] problem. He suggests William Black is hiding behind a keyboard, but it’s ok for idiots to hide behind a steering wheel and endanger others.
Watch out, he’s from the North…
JC: “Still, twist all you like, hiding away in Devon. I was brought up in the north where people don’t write anything they wouldn’t say to your face.”
That did make me laugh out loud and scratch my head at the same time, what does being a ‘Northern’ have to do with anything?
notfastenough
A nice little (large?) group
A nice little (large?) group doing the same, all at the same time, would be amusing.Oh, and I’d happily say it to his face. This strikes me as the same sort of mentality that results in the “I’ll show him, the skinny bloke in lycra” [makes punishment pass] problem. He suggests William Black is hiding behind a keyboard, but it’s ok for idiots to hide behind a steering wheel and endanger others.
William Black
I’m sure there will be more
I’m sure there will be more edited highlights to follow as I have yet to reply to his latest comical reply, but I’ve got a bit of a busy day ahead it seems.glynr36
Regularly cycle through
Regularly cycle through Worcester on some of my rides, may take him up on that offer.pete5
That’s appalling. I think a
That’s appalling. I think a strongly worded email is in order to the owners of the Worcester News. That appears to be Newsquest, of which Paul Davidson is the CEO.Helpfully, one of the trade unions has published his email address in response to a dispute they had, it’s pdavidson@london.newsquest.co.uk
It’s a bit late now, but I will email him in the morning
William Black
WB:I would have articulated a
WB:I would have articulated a much better response to your article ‘Cyclists are a nuisance on the road’ written with the grammatical aplomb of a seven year old but thought it would be as much of waste of my valuable time as you are a waste of oxygen.JC: Come and say it to my face. You’re a big man behind your keyboard. Office is on Hylton Road.
WB: I’d love to discuss with you your thoughts on cycling but I live in Devon. If, however, I’m in the Worcester area I will of course come in and have chat. The threatening email has be noted and will duly be passed on to Paul Davidson*. (*Chap at Newsquest Media)
JC:It wasn’t threatening. I was just seeing if you were man enough to look me in the eye and say it. Which you’re not. Not unreasonable really. Send the email to whoever you like. I hope the weather’s nice in Devon.
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