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August 22, 2013 at 7:12 pm #19676
freespirit1
Amazed you are all so quiet.
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Leviathan
freespirit1 wrote:Finally
freespirit1 wrote:Finally Sideburn and Bikeboy do not live in Surrey, therefore they have as much right to tell me how to live and run my life in Surrey, as I do to tell them how to live theirs in Manchester and Devon.You come here for a visit and a days enjoyment those of us that HAVE to go to work still need to do so.
I live in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and have as much right as you do to come down to Surrey and go for a bike, as you have a right to drive up here and partake of some of the lovely cafes and pubs in Didsbury. You are welcome.
What a Muppet!
freespirit1
I am not prepared to cycle 35
I am not prepared to cycle 35 miles do a 12 hour shift and then cycle 35 miles, to get home again. If the trains ran at the times I need at the weekend I would use them.Living in Byfleet I will have to go to the M25 at Chertsey, go within half a mile of where I started to join the A3 and then head to London. When I could just turn left at the roundabout and head to the A3 and be at the A3 in less than 10 minutes. If the roads were closed at 6 will not be a problem, 5 is too early.
That journey extension is 10 miles hence my 20 mile detour statement.
musicalmarc
genuine question, have you
genuine question, have you considered riding a bike to work for that day. You can wheel it along pavements to get around closed roads and then cycle the rest of the way. As a Londoner I have to put up with blocked up/ closed roads for much of the year. A crash on the trunk roads causes all other roads to get blocked. I’m only late for work on a bike if it’s sunny.freespirit1
Finally Sideburn and Bikeboy
Finally Sideburn and Bikeboy do not live in Surrey, therefore they have as much right to tell me how to live and run my life in Surrey, as I do to tell them how to live theirs in Manchester and Devon.You come here for a visit and a days enjoyment those of us that HAVE to go to work still need to do so.
freespirit1
My home is on the route, but
My home is on the route, but as they are doing rolling road closures for this we should be ok.Time will tell.
Also we have had a bit more than a 3 weeks notice this time of the potential closures. Perhaps SCC left it so late to avoid people complaining before. Who knows?
crazy-legs
freespirit1:
I presume you’re
freespirit1:
I presume you’re aware of the Tour of Britain having a stage in Surrey this year as well? Saturday 21st September.http://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/stages/stage7/index.php#.Uh8UbT9el3s
Just posting this as a warning that once again there will be significant road closures on that day from very early in the morning until about 7.30pm.
Just telling you this so that you might be able to make alternative plans should your home be on the route again.
SideBurn
I try not to watch too much
I try not to watch too much television, but when I do there seem to be a lot of programs dedicated to obesity, lack of exercise along with their health related problems of heart disease, diabetes. Then of course over-reliance on motor vehicles, people killed by motor vehicles etc. Even Jeremy Clarkson is saying that the country would be better if more people rode bikes.
The people in government put on an event that attracts and hopefully inspires 10’s of thousands of people…
and a few hundred whinge that they -might- be inconvenienced?
I may live in Devon but I used to live near to part of the route; your 20 mile diversion statement does not add up to me. Or are you saying you would have to push your motorbike 20 miles?freespirit1
Sideburn
Sticks and stones
SideburnSticks and stones and all that. I find it quite amusing that people when confronted with a view that they do not like always resort to smears and name calling.
I perhaps also should have pointed out that I can do nothing about the Marathon as I am not a London resident and voter.
The bottom line is a lot of people are inconvenienced by the event and all the other non-regulated ones that spring up in Surrey.
SideBurn
You still sound a lot like a
You still sound a lot like a nimby 😕 I think you sum up your attitude when you say about the marathon, “It does not affect me so who cares?” I live in Devon so why should I care?
Anyone know how much this event raised for charity this year?Leviathan
freespirit1 wrote:All I have
freespirit1 wrote:All I have said is that ALL road users if they obeyed the simple instructions in existence, may find that we can all use the roads in harmony.Well yes, on a normal day. But road closures are necessary for this event. You cannot have up to 20,000 cyclists mixing with normal road traffic, even on a Sunday morning. Then there is the professional Classic race. What would happen at the hundreds of traffic light junctions? There will be road closures for this event next year, to suggest otherwise implies you aren’t really aware of what is happening during the event.
crazy-legs
To pick up on this point you
To pick up on this point you made in the previous thread (freespirit1):
2. Like most Surrey residents I was extremely pleased about the route being used for the Olympics as a one off and for a rehearsal. At no point were residents consulted about an annual event.The council (belive it or not) is actually under no obligation to consult it’s residents whatsoever – they can shut roads for any reason (well, anything they deem “necessary”) without any prior notice at all – it’ll be in your council tax info (hiding somewhere in very tiny print!).
As a general rule though, they will notify residents – exceptions obviously include things like major incidents (burst water main, fire, bomb threat etc) but for things like marathons, cycling events, it’s usually regarded as polite to let people know – there are however not obliged to ask your opinion at all!
As I posted in that previous thread, I’m genuinely curious as to how many people were actually affected – people who simply had no other option at all? As I mentioned, my Dad lives right on the route of the London Marathon and for one weekend a year, he can’t access his car, can’t walk to the shops – so he plans ahead and makes alternative arrangements (or buys in his supplies in advance).
Once a year, there’s a funfair held on the park opposite my house which causes a lot of noise, a lot of traffic congestion etc. Personally I hate it but I can see the good it does for the area, can see how many people enjoy it so again, I make alternative plans that weekend.
I’m not saying that’s an option for everyone – obviously there will be people who can’t just jump in a car and go away for a weekend, just curious as to what options there were in place to cater for that?
Not having a go, genuine question – something you might want to feed back to the organisers?
freespirit1
I am quite sure people do
😀 I am quite sure people do complain about the Marathon I am not as it does not affect me. It is a bit of a cheap shot to imply that I may be anti-cyclist.All I have said is that ALL road users if they obeyed the simple instructions in existence, may find that we can all use the roads in harmony.
With all the hills around Bath anyone who does a half marathon around there should be sectioned afterwards! 😀
Wimbledon does tend to snarl up a relatively small area, it will be a pain in the arse I agree but maybe only a mile extra pain iin the arse. Not a 20 mile detour pain the arse.
As for walking a bit I would but pushing a motorcycle that weighs the best part of 400 pounds is not that easy after a while!!!
arfa
I am inconvenienced for two
I am inconvenienced for two weeks a year with tennis at Wimbledon and the resultant traffic (the Olympics were even worse with road blocks). Hundreds participate, thousands come and millions enjoy watching it. Sometimes you just have to plan and compromise for the greater good. I know when the tournament will be and adjust accordingly.
dave atkinson
people in bath moan about the
people in bath moan about the half marathon *every* year. you’ve never heard such whining because you can’t drive to sainsburys for six hours of one day every year.SideBurn
You sound like you are saying
You sound like you are saying you might be inconvenienced not will?
I had a road closed near me, (subsidence, which I realise is a lot different) I was awkward especially as it was closed for weeks but meant I had to walk a bit. It was not the end of the world.
Working nights is s**t; I know because I work them, even a minor irritation becomes a major one, but this event has raised thousands for charity and could go on to raise thousands more. I suspect a lot of local businesses are rubbing their hands with expectation
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