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May 18, 2013 at 6:12 pm #18830
joc
Apologies if the intricacies of the Scottish language is lost on you all đŸ˜€
But I’ve noticed a few derisory comments about people wearing sky kit to sportives etc. why is it considered naff? -
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Bedfordshire Clanger
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It changes everything we do
And we ride it every dayIf you have had time to read this guff on the back of the jersey of someone pootling along in the middle of a narrow lane, hands feathering the brakes in front of you then there’s every chance that the kit might seem a bit wanky. Wear it if you want, I guess some people like the taste of corporate jiz. Each to his own.
Brailsford, the Olympic team and British Cycling have done wonders for the sport. Murdoch has thrown in some money, he’s still an execrable character.
tomisitt
Undoubtedly Sky’s sponsorship
Undoubtedly Sky’s sponsorship has been very beneficial to British cycling, encouraging more people to get onto bikes. But don’t think for one second that their sponsorship is based on anything other than sound financial reasoning.BTW, Sky’s zero-tolerance didn’t stop them employing Geert Leinders, so I think we should be careful before getting too sanctimonious.
My Johnny-come-lately observation was meant to illustrate that Sky has no historic love of cycling; they identified sport where they could get maximum exposure, threw relatively large amounts of money at an expensively assembled team, and have done very well out of it.
I’m happy that Wiggins won the Tour, even if it was uncomfortably remiscent of US Postal (and about as exciting), and I’m delighted to see Brits doing well in the peleton. It’s a shame Sky don’t have a women’s team. Presumably because it doesn’t get the sort of media coverage that warrants that sort of investment.
Ultimately, in my view Murdoch and his corporations are morally bankrupt, and that’s why I’d never wear the kit. If other people want to, that’s entirely their business.
tomisitt wrote:Hmmm…how
tomisitt wrote:Hmmm…how much interest did The Times take in cycling BEFORE one of their staff was seriously injured in a bike accident?Sky’s sponsorship of cycling started AFTER British Cycling started winning medals and gaining global plaudits. Businesses provide sponsorship for very oblivious reasons, not because they have any particular love of the sport.
If Sky was genuinely interested in cycling, it wouldn’t be the Johnny-come-lately of the sport, throwing its money around like a middle-eastern Sheik with a football club. And we would have seen cycling on Sky Sports before 2010.
And then there’s Murdoch himself, and his hateful media empire, bribing, lying, libelling, hacking, objectifying women, etc etc. If you think throwing a few coins into cycling’s begging bowl is somehow mitigation for the appalling behaviour of Murdoch and his minions over many decades, then by all means wear Sky kit. But it’s not something I would consider.
I couldn’t give a toss about the reasons behind it but you are extremely naive if you don’t think that sky have had a massive effect on British cycling… And I find your smug Johnny come lately comment extremely arrogant. So what I’ve you’ve been into cycling for years. What’s your contribution to the sport we love?700c
@Tomisitt, yeah much better
@Tomisitt, yeah much better if Sky had been running a team in say, 1998, when everyone was nicely doped up.How dare they come late to the party, with their new-fangled complete zero tolerance approach to doping!
Seriously, we all know corporations are essentially after their own interests, in this case publicity through success through sport on the world stage. It just so happens that they’ve chosen cycling, a sport I love, and have contributed to British success, which I applaud.
To completely dismiss all that because of an anti Murdoch view is being too simplistic, in my view.
But by all means, wear what you want! Those Festina tops are nice! đŸ˜‰
Hmmm…how much interest did
Hmmm…how much interest did The Times take in cycling BEFORE one of their staff was seriously injured in a bike accident?Sky’s sponsorship of cycling started AFTER British Cycling started winning medals and gaining global plaudits. Businesses provide sponsorship for very oblivious reasons, not because they have any particular love of the sport.
If Sky was genuinely interested in cycling, it wouldn’t be the Johnny-come-lately of the sport, throwing its money around like a middle-eastern Sheik with a football club. And we would have seen cycling on Sky Sports before 2010.
And then there’s Murdoch himself, and his hateful media empire, bribing, lying, libelling, hacking, objectifying women, etc etc. If you think throwing a few coins into cycling’s begging bowl is somehow mitigation for the appalling behaviour of Murdoch and his minions over many decades, then by all means wear Sky kit. But it’s not something I would consider.
700c wrote:Ah yes, that nasty
700c wrote:Ah yes, that nasty Mr. Murdoch,Owner of that company investing millions into British cycling at amateur (Olympic) level
Owner of the company sponsoring the team who gave us our first British TDF winner,
Owner of the paper running a prominent cycling campaign
Owner of the company sponsoring the sports youth trust
The world’s not black and white, folks! :O let’s not forget the above when we jump on the anti-Murdoch band wagon. I seek to redress the balance here in a cycling context and I’m not saying he and his organisation are saints.
Bingo
Ah yes, that nasty Mr.
Ah yes, that nasty Mr. Murdoch,Owner of that company investing millions into British cycling at amateur (Olympic) level
Owner of the company sponsoring the team who gave us our first British TDF winner,
Owner of the paper running a prominent cycling campaign
Owner of the company sponsoring the sports youth trust
The world’s not black and white, folks! :O let’s not forget the above when we jump on the anti-Murdoch band wagon. I seek to redress the balance here in a cycling context and I’m not saying he and his organisation are saints.
farrell
And whilst I’m not Anti-Sky
And whilst I’m not Anti-Sky kit being worn, I have encountered some tossers in Sky kit, so if you are wearing a Sky kit and you are referred to as “That tosser in the Sky kit” it may not necessarily be due to your choice of attire. You may just be a tosser.Always worth remembering.
I wouldn’t wear the Sky kit
I wouldn’t wear the Sky kit because of two reasons:1) I don’t particularly like the Murdoch connection and most importantly:
2) It just doesn’t do anything for me. It, along with many other pro-kits, are very dull and boring but then many of the rest are ridiculously lairy.
If I was going to spend that amount of cash on it I’d want to like it. There are several Rapha jerseys I’d opt for over the Sky one, last years Paris – Roubaix one for starters.
The British kit is an absolute no-no for me as I regularly end up doing the same route (Down the Kingsway into Longsight) as a few riders on the British team based at the Velodrome. I’d be too embarrassed wearing it in front of them.
Roscoemck
Super Domestique
Super Domestique wrote:northstar wrote:Wear what you want, it’s no one’s business but yours.All that needs to be said.
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Stumps
Just bought a copy one from
Just bought a copy one from china for 8.99. Might be cheap and nasty but in all honesty i dont give a toss what anyone else thinks or says.notfastenough
I note that there is a poll
I note that there is a poll result in Cycling+ this month on this very subject. Something like 64% say wear what you want. Only 15% say you shouldn’t wear it because you haven’t earned it.snappyandrew
IMHO wearing the Sky top is
IMHO wearing the Sky top is equivalent to wearing a Man Utd or Liverpool top. Add to this the Murdoch connection and the quality of the shirt and I’m outtrikeman
Raleigh wrote:Look me in the
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IS IT?
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All available on ebay B-)
Is that a Chinarello?
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comm88
You shouldn’t give a tuppenny
You shouldn’t give a tuppenny toss what other people think.It isn’t bad form or whatever the “others” espouse. The moment you start to listen to the “well considered opinions” of others about what to wear – you are lost. Wear WHATEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY and makes you feel good … about yourself – and if that happens to make other people unhappy, or snide – so be it.
Give ’em the middle finger and just pedal harder.
I sometimes ride in the old Sky blue, red and white track styled top whenever I feel like it – and I totally love it! Makes me feel good and I am very proud to own it and wear it.
And I’m a fat old git in lycra – and I couldn’t care less what others think.
I also run the roads in a GB Olympics 2012 T shirt (I just love the design!) and I occasionally wear a Great Britain Olympics 2012 blue hoodie when I’m out shopping.
It’s not about pretending to be “somebody special” – but it is all about being who you are!
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