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April 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm #18536
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With only 3 days till the race starts are we going to get it opened before the end of the weekend. Impatient i know but i’m at work Monday and the kids of an evening makes it kind of difficult.
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In Columbia there are more
In Columbia there are more mountains, less flat roads, and to do well on the local junior scene you need to climb. Perhaps its a failing of the system but it just doesn’t seem set up to produce sprinters.ray silvester
STEVESPRO 79 wrote:ray
STEVESPRO 79 wrote:ray silvester wrote:[quote=drheaton]Not sure altitude plays as large a part as you may think, read this:http://inrng.com/2013/04/colombia-cycling-altitude/%5B/quote%5D
Good article
Interesting read with some witty comments…..Rigoberto Uran…team Sky’s `mane` man…. :)
But if it’s to do with attitude rather than altitude then why are their great riders(Colombia) all climbers?
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ray silvester wrote:drheaton
ray silvester wrote:[quote=drheaton]Not sure altitude plays as large a part as you may think, read this:http://inrng.com/2013/04/colombia-cycling-altitude/%5B/quote%5D
Good article
Interesting read with some witty comments…..Rigoberto Uran…team Sky’s `mane` man…. 🙂
ray silvester
drheaton wrote:Not sure
[quote=drheaton]Not sure altitude plays as large a part as you may think, read this:http://inrng.com/2013/04/colombia-cycling-altitude/%5B/quote%5D
Good article
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arsene wrote:I’m convinced
arsene wrote:I’m convinced Spilak and Peraud actually gave 100%. They were in excellent shape at Pais Vasco, couple weeks ago. Many riders were sick afterwards and it’s not easy to mantain that shape tho (recover without losing form). A lot of riders racing Romandie are close to peak form between Ardennes and Giro. Not anyone can be top 20 on any day. There are many factors that can be decisive in a 7.5 km prologue (shape, mental strength, preparation, weather). Spilak is on my team too and I expect some fine racing from him this week. 😕 :D
Sorry but Im just not buying into that philosophy…Stage was made for Spilak,Peraud and Velits….FACT…they did not ride…TERatcliffe26
ray silvester
ray silvester wrote:TERatcliffe26 wrote:ray silvester wrote:2)Anyone know the cut off point for youth eligibility? Is Talansky eleigible?
For a reason I cannot find, Talansky is not eligible for the young riders Jersey despite still being under 25 😕
I was only able to confirm this once the startlist for the prologue was produced, so apologies if this affected your selecting riders.I think some tours have lower age limits for qualification hence the question….no hard feelings for what you believed was the correct answer 😉
A good TT for Pinot bodes well for his future as a GC guy and his battles with Tejay could be the future of the sport?
No worries, Its the cut off that confuses me, Nizzolo was 24 in Jan and is classed as a young rider, Talanksy was 24 in Nov and is not classed as a young rider, so maybe it has something to do with age on Jan 1st of the calender year?
Pinot surprised me as did a few others, including Clement considering it was so hilly. Could well be interesting, id throw Talansky, Betancur and Quintana in the mix too
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I’m convinced Spilak and
I’m convinced Spilak and Peraud actually gave 100%. They were in excellent shape at Pais Vasco, couple weeks ago. Many riders were sick afterwards and it’s not easy to mantain that shape tho (recover without losing form). A lot of riders racing Romandie are close to peak form between Ardennes and Giro. Not anyone can be top 20 on any day. There are many factors that can be decisive in a 7.5 km prologue (shape, mental strength, preparation, weather). Spilak is on my team too and I expect some fine racing from him this week. 😕 😀
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Totally agree with Stevemarks
Totally agree with Stevemarks comments….This was a tough prologue to call but in all honesty I think its utter bolloc*s when riders enter a race and then dont give 100%…..Spilak and Peraud could not have gone harder on that stage, given current form, I dont think so…….ray silvester
TERatcliffe26 wrote:ray
TERatcliffe26 wrote:ray silvester wrote:2)Anyone know the cut off point for youth eligibility? Is Talansky eleigible?
For a reason I cannot find, Talansky is not eligible for the young riders Jersey despite still being under 25 😕
I was only able to confirm this once the startlist for the prologue was produced, so apologies if this affected your selecting riders.I think some tours have lower age limits for qualification hence the question….no hard feelings for what you believed was the correct answer 😉
A good TT for Pinot bodes well for his future as a GC guy and his battles with Tejay could be the future of the sport?
drheaton
Not sure altitude plays as
Not sure altitude plays as large a part as you may think, read this:ray silvester
I think Froome and various
I think Froome and various Colombians have come to the fore because their natural advantages due to their birth/upbringing at high altitudes are now NOT being negated by widespread doping.Philip Unwin
If you had been following
If you had been following Froome’s career for the past 5 or 6 six years from his Barloworld days you would have seen a steady improvement in both his climbing and his TTs. His performances are in line with his age. he couldn’t stay with the podium winners in last years Vuelta day after day in the mountains, that’s where I would be asking questions.drheaton
For me, there’s a line
For me, there’s a line between believable and questionable. Froome and Quintana’s performances were well on the right side of believable given recent form and their respectively solid TT results.It’s hard to find the line sometimes. When Gaudin won the Paris-Nice prologue I had no idea who he was but as a track cyclist a strong prologue shouldn’t have been a shock.
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drheaton wrote:stevemarks
drheaton wrote:stevemarks wrote:I was just wondering how Froome gets to TT better than Talansky and Porte and Martin given past results? Is it just me or does it seem a little odd? Just thinking out loud, and I know I probably shouldn’t doubt so much, but to be honest I am a bit worried by performances like that…..Um, Froome took second in a couple of long TTs at last years TdF (beating Porte, Van Garderen, Evans, Chavanel and only losing out to Wiggins) and took bronze at the olympics (when he wasn’t far behind Martin on a flat course less suited to him). It’s not as if he’s never done well in a TT before.
Likewise, this is a hilly TT where climbing was more important than pure power (why Martin was down in 16th). This isn’t a surprise.
I accept all that; I am aware that Froome is a good TT guy, and I am not surprised that he did well, just a little surprised that he did so well. When Quintana did well in a TT recently questions were asked widely, and I was shocked by that reaction as I thought it was not a surprise. Maybe it’s just sour grapes that I didn’t pick him, I dont know, but I have had a gut reaction about some of his performances before and maybe I am biased against him, maybe it’s something I should get over, but it’s still eating away at me a bit and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way.
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stevemarks wrote:I was just
stevemarks wrote:I was just wondering how Froome gets to TT better than Talansky and Porte and Martin given past results? Is it just me or does it seem a little odd? Just thinking out loud, and I know I probably shouldn’t doubt so much, but to be honest I am a bit worried by performances like that…..Um, Froome took second in a couple of long TTs at last years TdF (beating Porte, Van Garderen, Evans, Chavanel and only losing out to Wiggins) and took bronze at the olympics (when he wasn’t far behind Martin on a flat course less suited to him). It’s not as if he’s never done well in a TT before.
Likewise, this is a hilly TT where climbing was more important than pure power (why Martin was down in 16th). This isn’t a surprise.
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