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March 18, 2013 at 7:51 am #18252enrique
Originally created to report name corrections in the game. * Francisco Jose Ventoso (Movistar) appears in the game as Fransisco Jose Ventoso. I’m pretty sure his name is spelled “Francisco” not “Fransisco”.*
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simon F
Twybaydos wrote:Kazakh Turkic
Twybaydos wrote:Kazakh Turkic is probably not relevant where all Kazakh riders have Russian names; given that cyrillic is the predominant written language of Kazakhstan.
True enough, except that there are a huge number of ethnic groups in the pre/post soviet countries, not all of whom remain where they came from. An awful lot of names would have been cyrillicised(?) at some point in the past and not necessarily in a consistent or “authentic” russian way.
I guess what I’m saying is that when we can’t even agree on the difference between Castilian/Catalan (or Gallegan or Basque), Enrique is on a bit of a hiding to nothing in trying to define a “correct” way of spelling rider’s names in a western European/American manner so the whole of this thread is a bit pointless, my posts included.enrique
Twybaydos wrote:I have a
Twybaydos wrote:I have a smattering of Russian… I read the following names:
… Alexey Tsatevich… Sergey Chernetskiy… Aleksandr Kuchynski…Twybaydos wrote:… Bielorussian is relevant so as not to pronounce… Siutsou as Sivtsov…I’m impressed, Twy. Cool! 🙂
Twybaydos
simon F wrote:Not all Russian
simon F wrote:Not all Russian though, are they – قازاق ٴتىلى (Kazakh) and беларуская мова aren’t necessarily the same thing as Russian. They all romanise slightly differently.Kazakh Turkic is probably not relevant where all Kazakh riders have Russian names; given that cyrillic is the predominant written language of Kazakhstan. Bielorussian is relevant so as not to pronounce Kanstantsin Siutsou as Sivtsov. Kiriyenka is the same either way.
Not all Russian though, are
Not all Russian though, are they – قازاق ٴتىلى (Kazakh) and беларуская мова aren’t necessarily the same thing as Russian. They all romanise slightly differently.Quote:TERatcliffe26
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
…ever thought certain names may appear differently in different languages?I have a smattering of Russian and, on the basis that names are correct in cyrillic, I read the following names:
Алексей Тсатевич – Alexey Tsatevich
Сергей Чернетский – Sergey Chernetskiy (PCS and the Katusha English translation have mis-spelled this)
Александр Кучинский – Aleksandr Kuchynski (Katusha website again disagrees)
Иглинский :: Iglinskiy (Valentin or Maxim) – The Astana’s website is not the best English translationI’d just hate it if I was a professional cyclist and people couldn’t spell my name rightCan we misspell Cadel Evans to Cuddles for that very reason?
enrique
Gkam84 wrote:I know what I
Gkam84 wrote:I know what I would like to call you…Your big, hunky latino ‘lover boy’? 😉 You know I love you, right? 🙂
Gkam84
I know what I would like to
I know what I would like to call you…..I don’t have unlimited time to get everything done. But this week at some point. I will go through ALL the names and see how the compare to the UCI lists.
The reason I use the UCI, that is the name which is on their race license. Each team can call their rider whatever they want on their own websites.
enrique
TERatcliffe26 wrote:On IAM’s
TERatcliffe26 wrote:On IAM’s own website its Thomas Löfkvist…Yeah, I’m ok with that… I would honestly believe that a rider’s team website, well, they should have the name down right, but Gkam prefers the UCI’s spelling… so I pointed it out… but…
TERatcliffe26 wrote:…ever thought certain names may appear differently in different languages?No, not really, a name is a name… it would be like you calling me ‘henry’ because ‘enrique’ is Spanish for ‘henry” (or you could call me ‘orli’, just kidding 😀 )… or me calling you ‘Tomas’ instead of ‘Thomas’, just because ‘Tomas”is Spanish for ‘Thomas’ if that’s your real name, so no, I don’t think this is a case of names appearing differently in different langiages, I think we should use their real names… especially a last name… like Lofkvist…
Yes, Joaquin is ‘Joaquim’ in Catalan and (!) Portuguese, but the rider’s name is ‘Joaquim’… The name ‘Javier’ is very common, but Janier Acecedo with Garmin (http://www.slipstreamsports.com/riders/janier-acevedo/) is (!) ‘Janier’, a totally diferent name… ‘Vicenzo’ is different from ‘Vincenzo’… ‘Reinhardt’ is different from ‘Reinardt’… ‘Mickael’ is different from ‘Mikael’… ‘Alexandr’ is different from ‘Alexsandr’… ‘Iglinksiy’ is diferent from ‘Iglinskiy’… Alexandr is different from ‘Alexsandr’… ‘Lamiosson’ is different from ‘Lamoisson’… ‘Kuschynski’ is different from ‘Kuchynski’… ‘Kanstantin’ is different from ‘Kanstantsin’… ‘Luka’ is different from ‘Luca’… ‘Tsatevitch’ is different from ‘Tsatevich’… ‘Reichanbach’ is different from ‘Reichenbach’… ‘Ratcliffe’ is different from ‘Racliffe’… Some of it is just transposing letters and some of it is mistyping…
Lofkvist is probably right on the team website… That’s cool… The rest, well… I’d just hate it if I was a professional cyclist and people couldn’t spell my name right 😀 But I’m not… 🙁
Simon_MacMichael
Don’t even get me started on
Don’t even get me started on Joaquin vs Joaquim Rodriguez (Castilian aka ‘Spanish’ vs Catalan spelling). He goes by both depending where you look, and whichever I use someone will pull me up 🙂TERatcliffe26
It was aimed more at Enrique,
It was aimed more at Enrique, I was backing you up on the names 😉Yes names appear different in
Yes names appear different in different languages and also, I’ve taken out all the bloody symbols above certain letters, because it mucks up parts of the back end of the gameOn IAM’s own website its
On IAM’s own website its Thomas Löfkvist…..ever thought certain names may appear differently in different languages?
enrique
Thomas Lofkvist’s last name
Thomas Lofkvist’s last name on the UCI website is ‘LÖVKVIST’.Reinhardt Janse Van Rensburg’s first name on the UCI website is ‘Reinardt’
http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1
enrique
Gkam84 wrote:Maybe you can go
Gkam84 wrote:Maybe you can go look at all the others spelling you have pointed out and check their license as well…Sure!
Steven Cummings in the game is ‘Stephen’ on the UCI website (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
Mickael Cherel in the game appears as ‘Mikael’ on the UCI website (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
Alexandr Dyachenko in the game is ‘Alexsandr’ on the UCI website (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
Valentin Iglinksiy’s last name on the UCI website is ‘IGLINSKIY’
(http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)Morgan Lamiosson’s last name is ‘LAMOISSON’ on the UCI website (http://www.teameuropcar.com/fiche-coureur/morgan-lamoisson/)
Luka Wackerman in the game is ‘Luca’ on the UCI website (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
Aleksandr Kuschynski’s first name should be ‘Aliaksandr’ according to the UCI website. His last name should ‘KUCHYNSKI’ (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
Kanstantin Siutsou in the game appears on the UCI website as ‘Kanstantsin’ (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1)
There are plenty of places
There are plenty of places who published just that quote.But the only place I really care about and it lists EXACTLY what is on their race license is the UCI.
So if you go here and click on Movistar, you will see.
Maybe you can go look at all the others spelling you have pointed out and check their license aswell
http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTYzMzU&LangId=1
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