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  • April 19, 2012 at 2:04 pm #15586
    londonplayer

    Will Monsieur Gilbert finally win a first place?

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  • April 20, 2012 at 3:06 pm #675121
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    drheaton

    Gerrans is a possible for me
    Gerrans is a possible for me but I’m not sure, with Henao and Schleck/Nibali/Sanchez I’ve got room for a couple of mid-price stars but like the look of Vanendert and one other, Gerrans would be picked but I don’t have enough transfers to move the credits around to pick him up instead of Henao.

    Re Albasini, anyone think he’s got a chance or has he had his turn and will he be working for Gerrans at the weekend?

    April 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm #675119
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    londonplayer

    anyone thinking about
    anyone thinking about including Gerrans? he came 12th last year.

    I agree with comments above that Cunego will be knackered. Wouldn’t be surprised if he withdrew before race of even during.

    April 20, 2012 at 2:21 pm #675117
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    Alan Tullett

    drheaton wrote:Also,

    drheaton wrote:
    Also, hopefully to confuse a few of you, Vanendert’s last few LBL results:

    2011 OMEGA PHARMA – LOTTO 17th
    2009 SILENCE-LOTTO 25th
    2008 FRANÇAISE DES JEUX 82nd
    2007 CHOCOLADE JACQUES – TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN 26th

    :evil:

    But in 2011 he was helping Gilbert win. This year he’s a leader.

    April 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm #675115
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    Alan Tullett

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:You have

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    You have the German DS correct. But the Italian is not Nocentini, slightly cheaper than him.

    Im not gonna go Nibali I don’t think, would mean axing both Schleck and Rodriguez and then have only one DS change and wouldn’t be able to afford to bring in the DS I want

    I think I know who you mean and I want him as well!

    April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm #675113
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    Alan Tullett

    macauley ley wrote:i wouldnt

    macauley ley wrote:
    i wouldnt keep j-rod,look at his result in amstel gold,far enough he won fleche wallone,but thats only because he likes the really steep finishes,liege is about the longer climbs

    He was 2nd in 2009, behind A Schleck. And he wasn’t on very good form that year.

    April 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm #675111
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    drheaton

    I’ve worked out two teams,
    I’ve worked out two teams, one spaniard free, one with the spaniard. The first has some nice high value DSs who should score, the second isn’t as balanced (ends up with cheaper probably non-scoring DSs) but gives me a bigger chance of top 3 finishes.

    Some ‘back of an envelope’ maths:

    1,2,3 and 4 scores 145 points
    If you don’t get a top 3 you need 4-12 to score 135 points plus, let’s assume 5 from a team mate, gives you 140.

    The points drop off from 1-5 is so steep that I think the right option for me at least is to go big and go for 2-4 riders who not only can but should win and hope for some backup from cheap DSs. For these races stacking your team for 9 top 20 finishes won’t score as well as 3 in the top 5 if you manage to pick the winner.

    April 20, 2012 at 12:28 pm #675109
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    TERatcliffe26

    Nope im staying clear of the
    Nope im staying clear of the spaniards and thats whay ive axed j-Rod

    April 20, 2012 at 12:27 pm #675107
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    drheaton

    hmm, now you’ve got me
    hmm, now you’ve got me stumped, I was sure you’d have a certain Spaniard.

    April 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm #675105
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    TERatcliffe26

    nope your wrong…I would
    nope your wrong…I would have 3.9 credits if i remember correctly

    April 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm #675103
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    drheaton

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:So Chris

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    So Chris it seems you think Mollema could win then…

    Drheaton, i like your tactic, but wont me off him as he has different form

    so my team is looking like this im thinking

    An unnamed rider that I shall not reveal
    F Schleck
    Vanendert
    an in form italian

    Another rider most have, that i didnt previously
    Wegmann
    Florencio
    Nordhaug
    And a cheap rider that I haven’t decied on to replace Kreder

    Hmmm, if you’ve picked who I think you have (and the Italian isn’t Nibali) then I reckon you’ve got 8.9 credits for your ‘cheap’ DS, although I may be wrong đŸ˜‰

    April 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm #675101
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    chrisdstripes

    Got it in one! Well, maybe
    Got it in one! Well, maybe not win, but podium would justify the price tag I think. Unproven over 250km though (as far as I know), so is a risk. He was always the one I intended to keep for all three Ardennes races though, so I’d feel pretty dumb if I dropped him and he ended up winning it.

    Just need to decide on a couple of left-field DSs that not many people will have, see if I can generate a late surge up the table!

    April 20, 2012 at 12:03 pm #675099
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    TERatcliffe26

    So Chris it seems you think
    So Chris it seems you think Mollema could win then…

    Drheaton, i like your tactic, but wont me off him as he has different form

    so my team is looking like this im thinking

    An unnamed rider that I shall not reveal
    F Schleck
    Vanendert
    an in form italian

    Another rider most have, that i didnt previously
    Wegmann
    Florencio
    Nordhaug
    And a cheap rider that I haven’t decied on to replace Kreder

    April 20, 2012 at 11:45 am #675097
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    drheaton

    Also, hopefully to confuse a
    Also, hopefully to confuse a few of you, Vanendert’s last few LBL results:

    2011 OMEGA PHARMA – LOTTO 17th
    2009 SILENCE-LOTTO 25th
    2008 FRANÇAISE DES JEUX 82nd
    2007 CHOCOLADE JACQUES – TOPSPORT VLAANDEREN 26th

    đŸ‘¿

    April 20, 2012 at 11:43 am #675095
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    chrisdstripes

    Yeah, Frank is a funny one –
    Yeah, Frank is a funny one – he seems to like LBL and that puncture on Weds prevented us from seeing how good his finishing might be. I’ve decided to drop J-Rod so its either Frank or Phil to come in. I could just leave it at that, but with 4 more transfers available the temptation to do some tinkering is difficult to resist! One guy no-one seems to have mentioned above that I’m definitely keeping though – feel like it could be his big breakthrough…

    I have identified plenty of cheap DSs for Romandie, and 2 fairly cheap stars, so will choose my two expensive stars (no idea who yet!) and then just go with whatever I can afford from my DS list…

    Thanks for the advice, its a steep learning curve but I think I’m getting there!

    April 20, 2012 at 11:41 am #675093
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    drheaton

    Currently got
    Sammy
    Currently got

    Sammy Sanchez,
    Nibali,
    Henao,
    Vanendert

    Albasini,
    Nocentini,
    De Waele
    Florencio
    M Kreder

    I want to keep Vanendert and Henao is currently the cheapest star so he’ll probably be kept. Dropping De Waele, Kreder and probably Florencio (although a cheap Katusha rider is always handy) so my big decision is whether to keep Sanchez/Nibali or trade up/down.

    Sanchez’ last four finishes have been 10, 10, 13 and 15. Nibali has one good result (last year’s 8th) but other than that has been gash in LBL, but he’s on form and after MSR and FW could well feature heavily.

    I reckon I can bank on two top 10 with cheaper riders than Sanchez/Nibali (Gerrans, Uran maybe even Martens) and maybe trade up Henao instead for another of those three. Otherwise F Shrek is within budget and with a record of 2, 8, 23, 3, 3 and 7 in the last 6 years should score well.

    Like Tera the choice is go big and try for the win or go conservative and pick steady riders who are, as much as possible, guaranteed performers.

    As my brother says though, ‘Go big or go home’.

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