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  • April 9, 2012 at 11:12 am #15514
    Yorkshie Whippet

    Hi there folks,

    For the last couple of years I’ve happily been bashing a set of Planet X Model B wheels and now fancy a fresh set within £350. Planet X claim that the model b’s weigh approx 1600gms. I’ve looked at carbon rims (Planet X 50mm) at £450-£500 and noticed that they are heavier.I’ve also looked at deep section alloy rims (Kinetic K1 and K2), which too seem to be heavier.

    1. Is the advantage of carbon rims worth the extra weight?
    2. Are deep section rims worth the extra weight?
    3. Any other reccommendations for clinchers?

    Cheers Steve

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  • April 13, 2012 at 10:48 am #673621
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    Yorkshie Whippet

    Bobbys boys wrote:Lots of

    Bobbys boys wrote:
    Lots of tyre changes? Got to be very careful with carbon rims and tyre levers. Alu option is American Classic 420 Aero at 1550g or American Classic 350 Sprint at 1410g. Bombproof and bearing are super – especially if you find a ceramic set. They are cheap too!

    Yeah, it’s a habit I picked years ago when mtbing. Mud tryes, gravel tyres, loose tyres, hardpack…… Why I couldn’t stick a pair on and leave I don’t know. I don’t have the confidence in my slicks to go out on wet roads, so change for Spesh Roubaixs or what I perceive as an intermediate. But that’s for another thread, another day.

    Oh, they do look nice and are lighter than what I’ve got. Slightly out of the original price range but look good value.

    April 13, 2012 at 9:05 am #673619
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    dave atkinson

    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:Cheers

    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:
    Cheers folks,

    After what’s been said, it looks like a light set is better for me than aero. As much as I like the idea of tubs, I change tyres too often.

    The short list is.

    1. RS80
    2. Kinetics Climbing wheels
    3. Them Pro-lites someone kept rabbiting on about.:-)

    Any other suggestions?

    Soul S2.0 (£575) http://road.cc/content/review/48341-soul-s20-wheelset

    Strada Velocity A23 (£495) http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/shop/velocity-a23-wheelset/

    Spin Supersonic SSC50 (£549) http://www.spincycleworks.com/servlet/the-67/CARBON-TUBULAR-50MM-HANDBUILT/Detail

    just to muddy the waters a bit 🙂

    April 13, 2012 at 8:54 am #673617
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    joemmo

    I was looking at some of
    I was looking at some of those ultegra wheels but am a bit put off by the price of spares – £90 for a rim? £4 for a spoke?

    I’m curious – what would the people who own these types of wheels plan to do once the rim wears out? Replace it or bin the whole wheel? It hardly seems worth the cost once you factor the cost of the build in.

    April 13, 2012 at 7:24 am #673615
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    Bobbys boys

    Lots of tyre changes? Got to
    Lots of tyre changes? Got to be very careful with carbon rims and tyre levers. Alu option is American Classic 420 Aero at 1550g or American Classic 350 Sprint at 1410g. Bombproof and bearing are super – especially if you find a ceramic set. They are cheap too!

    April 13, 2012 at 7:11 am #673613
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    Yorkshie Whippet

    Cheers folks,
    After what’s
    Cheers folks,

    After what’s been said, it looks like a light set is better for me than aero. As much as I like the idea of tubs, I change tyres too often.

    The short list is.

    1. RS80
    2. Kinetics Climbing wheels
    3. Them Pro-lites someone kept rabbiting on about.:-)

    Any other suggestions?

    April 12, 2012 at 12:39 pm #673611
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    Adam Buckland_ASD

    It’s also worth having a look
    It’s also worth having a look at other wheel reviews under the ‘Gear’ tap on this website, some really interesting options.

    April 10, 2012 at 8:36 pm #673609
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    russyparkin

    ha ha i have the ultegra 6700
    ha ha i have the ultegra 6700 they are superb as well. i do pine for the rs80 though

    April 10, 2012 at 4:09 pm #673607
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    roadracedave

    RS80’s all the way! You will
    RS80’s all the way! You will notice the increased stifness, and lower weight all the time, as opposed to only noticing the aero benefits on the flats.

    I am also on the market for some RS80’s, as has already been said, you’d be hard pushed to find a bad review about them, and you’d struggle to get a pair of aero wheels at the same weight, without spending considerably more!

    April 10, 2012 at 3:39 pm #673605
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    zzgavin

    my rs80s arrived and I put
    my rs80s arrived and I put the conti GP 4000s tyres on them, very easy indeed, so that’s another vote for them. The GP4000 tyres feel lovely too. Now to find time to wash the mud from the rapha hell of the north off my caad10, swap wheels over and get out on them…

    April 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm #673603
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    brunes

    hmmm, I have a set of Rs80s
    hmmm, I have a set of Rs80s in my basket at planet X, can’t seem to find a bad review for them.

    April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm #673601
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    pirnie

    Another vote for the RS80s
    Another vote for the RS80s here. I’ve had them since the end of february, only done about 400km on them so far but I’m loving them! The biggest difference I find is on long steady climbs (3-5% for a couple of miles). So much easier than my old wheels!!

    They seem to be pretty tough so far too (touch wood). I’m not a small guy (6’4″ and hovering arround 80kg) and they’ve handled some pretty bad roads with no problems so far

    April 10, 2012 at 9:46 am #673599
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    nellybuck@msn.com

    I’ve just bought some Shimano
    I’ve just bought some Shimano RS80 c24’s for £300. I fitted them at the weekend, after which it rained solidly for 24 hours so I haven’t ridden them yet; they look nice though…

    April 10, 2012 at 9:16 am #673597
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    cborrman

    1600 grams is as light as you
    1600 grams is as light as you can get for a clincher without paying at least double £350.

    I would definitely not go for heavier deep section, unless you are doing flat ironman courses where you spin up and keep the speed.

    I eventually went with planet X and got the more expensive R50 (1300 grams) , but you can get their slightly heavier tubular aeros, still lighter than present wheels for £399

    are they worth it? well, above 30km/h they are very noticeable indeed, however with cross winds they are like sails to the wind as well, so I only use them for a bit of pre triathlon training and race day

    if you are willing to go tubular, then the planet-x carbons at 1200grams will give you acceleration you will not believe, and with some sealant should not puncture.

    another option is the shimano tubeless ones on planet x:

    http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/WPSHUL6700/shimano_ultegra_6700_tubeless_wheelset

    I have been running Hutchison fusion and intensive tubeless now for years, never punctured, never pinch flatted, the grip is amazing and are like having 1cm of suspension compared to tubed clinchers (I run 90 psi front, 100 psi back for speed, 10 less for long rides, vs. about 30psi more on tubed clinchers)

    April 10, 2012 at 9:04 am #673595
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    notfastenough

    Interesting thread – I’ve got
    Interesting thread – I’ve got much the same question, with the added ‘advantage’ that my current wheelset (including tyres/tubes) is actually just over 3kg(!) according to the kitchen scales (shh don’t tell the missus I did that…) so I reckon anything around the 1.6kg mark is going to feel rather different!

    April 10, 2012 at 8:24 am #673593
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    zzgavin

    Pop into your lbs and take a
    Pop into your lbs and take a look at the shimano rs80-c24s, they are lovely, just at home waiting for mine to arrive. Lighter wheels make the up easier, which leaves you fresher for pushing it on the flat is my thinking. I’ve changed tyres too and combined they’ll drop the weight by 700g compared to my RS10s. I read a lot about different sorts of wheels and decided on these, as I’m fairly light, 70kgs, if you are a bit heavier, then the fulcrum 3s might be a better bet.

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