Transfers

I’ve just realised, at some
I’ve just realised, at some point in the last few months I seem to have been completely flipped on the reset button, last year I suggested it, this year I seem to be against it…

I see the sense in it but its only ever a real issue during the classics, like I’ve said before, once the Giro gets going noone will care and I doubt it’ll come up again until the year end ‘make suggestions’ thread.

londonplayer wrote:Meersmann

londonplayer wrote:

Meersmann was supposed to be riding but I understand [he has] has now withdrawn?… [T]hat makes it a fair game doesn’t it? Someone who is listed to be riding then pulls out…. To be honest… not being able to substitute a rider who pulls out seems… harsh.

I agree…

Rvizzle wrote:

Ah crap, I just moved Sanchez in earlier today!… d’oh!

My opinion is that a relatively easy solution would be to keep the ‘Reset Transfers’ button active unti the race deadline rolls around… That’s all I’m saying… That way, you can put in a team early, and if you decide to play like that, great! If you decide you want to make a last minute change, why not?… You would just lose all the transfers you’ve made up to that point and be able to make the transfers you actually want. You wouldn’t be getting more than 4 transfers if you get reset to the last team you played.

I just don’t like to be a slave to last minute changes… I think it’s fair to have that ‘Reset’button available, and it’s in everyone’s best interest to have that flexibility… What’s wrong with that?… I just think it’s fair to be able to choose the best team you can based on the latest information available without falling vivtim to the fact that you can’t reset your team when new informationbecomes available.

Then, you can fix things like what happened to the doctor…

drheaton wrote:

… I made my changes on Monday, I didn’t know if I’d have time to submit a team tonight… so [I] got a team in… rather than missing the deadline. It was a chance I took…

And if everyone agrees, it’s just a little rule change that frees you up from the shackles of having to wait to see if there’s last minute starting roster changes…

I think it’s a change which benefits everyone! That way you can store a team on the system, but if you change your mind, it’s no big deal, you just go back to your last valid team and make the transfers you want to make with the most current information available! 🙂

I mean. how easy would it be to fix the situations below, if the ‘Reset Transfers’button was available until the race started?

paulbburgoine wrote:

… [I]… stupidly left Sagan in… anyone know how to change without penaltys

Doaky wrote:

Drafted in Sanchez and de Gendt today… to find out they are out!… Im putting the spring classics to bed!…

It’s not an unfair advantage if everyone gets to use it. 🙂 And you can rest assured the competition will be fiercer! Because people will be able to have the best team they can with the latest information possible! C’mon, Dave, think about it! 🙂

The pro teams confirm their
The pro teams confirm their riders at the last minute, what’s new about that? Start lists change, what’s new about that?

I’m not trying to piss you off and I’m not being flipant, there’s no way to know who’s riding until the last minute, your best chance is to wait to the last minute but even then you can’t be sure. Its the same for everyone though and 99% of players seem to manage just fine. Surely fair is the same rules applying to everyone and everyone getting the same chances.

enrique wrote:ALLEZROUBAIX30

enrique wrote:

ALLEZROUBAIX30 wrote:

Took a huge gamble picking my team yesterday just logged on and that decision has backfired badly…

7 greyed ot riders think that my penalty points will be much higher than my score this stage X( Pig sick doesn’t even come close!!

Dave, the situation above is, in my opinion, a good enough reason to have the ‘Reset Transfers’ Button available at ANY point before the start of a race! It would make it aesier to fix our mistakes if the button were available even after we made the actual transfers… Please consider it…

That, for me, would be the best of both worlds… I guess it would require the system to store your last actual team, but, I still think that what should matter is the actual number of transfers from the last time your team competed…

Firstly, you DON’T HAVE TO HAVE NINE RIDERS, YOU CAN LEAVE SOME GREYED OUT AND AVOID THE PENALTY POINTS.

*deep breath*

Right, I made my changes on Monday, I didn’t know if I’d have time to submit a team tonight so got a team in rather than missing the deadline. It was a chance I took and if Sammy Sanchez doesn’t ride then it might not pay off but it was my decision.

Everyone knows, or at least by now they really should do, that pro teams can change right up to race start, if you choose to transfer early its a gamble and it doesn’t always pay off.

Likewise, after all the palaver in the first three classics there’s no excuse for not realising that there’s only limited transfers between these races.

In my opinion there was nothing wrong with how this was set up, all the problems have been nothing but bad luck, bad research or bad decisions. If anything needs to change I’d put a disclaimer on the ‘confirm transfers’ page saying that start lists are not and cannot be final until riders sign in on the morning of a stage but are as up to date as possible and its the players responsibility to check the most recent lists.

enrique wrote:…

enrique wrote:

… Professional teams provide a provisional start list to these races and make changes all the time…

Dave, I’ve seen your posts that tell us when you’ve uploaded the start list for an upcoming race. I was wondering, even though it would be a lot of work, if you might consider keeping a running thread in the forum where, if you add or delete a rider from the game start list, you could post it on the forum thread for that race or a unique thread dedicated to that races start list. Íf it’s not a lot of riders you’re changing that is… Just an idea… Don’t mean to rile anyone up… I know it’s free game, etc… 🙂

yes. unlimited transfers.
yes. unlimited transfers.

4 to tie the races together
4 to tie the races together into a series but acknowledging that there are bigger roster changes than between the stages of a stage race

londonplayer wrote:Out of

londonplayer wrote:

Out of interest, how was a decision reached that the number of transfers should have been 4?

I speak impartially as 4 was enough for me.

Originally there was a few 6 transfer changes (one would have been now), but instead it was voted as a compromise we would have 4 all the way through but an unlimited between the flandrian and ardennes classics, due to the drastic change