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Doping…..advice and thoughts

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  • September 23, 2011 at 2:21 am #14276
    Gkam84

    Ok, a couple of things have arisen from a ride out last night with a friend, we were talking drinks when he told me he was currently using SIS Ergogenic 😕 I’d only heard of SIS Go Electrolyte, which after a little research, seems to be the same thing

    He emailed me a link to what he’s using which seems to suggest it is Ergogenic??

    http://www.gbcycles.co.uk/product/32396/SIS_GO_Ergogenic_Drink

    But after a little more searching, i found the ingredients list which is as follows

    [quote]Carbohydrate mix (92%) (maltodextrin [produced by partial hydrolysis of a special variety of maize], fructose), natural flavouring, citric acid, electrolytes (2%) (sodium chloride, calcium lactate, potassium chloride, sodium citrate, magnesium lactate), sweetener (aspartame).
    Suitable for vegans. Contains a source of phenylalanine.[/quote]

    Nothing about the use of Ergogenic or anything related to it.

    My question is, IF it did contain Ergogenic, would it be banned by the likes of the UCI and WADA because as far as i know, its in some way linked or is an anabolic steroid??

    My other question is, which will be more of a personal opinion i think, Do alot of amateur riders use things that would be banned in pro cycling?? (intake wise rather than bikes and cycling gear)

    Like most of us, who enter sportive’s and similar races, i have used various gels, drinks, bars and so forth, but never really thought about what is in them or if they contain things that would be banned.

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  • September 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm #655375
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    PeteH

    I must admit I looked for a
    I must admit I looked for a moment at Clenbuterol when the Contador story broke. Within a very short space of time I’d googled it and found that its alternative name was the “Size Zero pill”.

    As someone who could do with losing a couple of pounds this immediately sparked my interest, although I have to say that in the end I googled sufficiently thoroughly to understand the possible medical side effects too, which were enough to put me off.

    But it is an interesting one. Certainly Clenbuterol is banned by the UCI or Contador would be a non-issue, but as far as I know it is not illegal in the UK. And it is easy enough to buy on the web. Perhaps there comes a point where “personal use” becomes “intent to supply”, and this may have legal implications. This drug is not approved for prescription in the UK, but it is approved elsewhere as a treatment for asthma.

    If I were a bit more of a risk-taker….

    September 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm #655373
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    stewieatb

    I thought clenbuterol was a
    I thought clenbuterol was a muscle-building drug?

    September 23, 2011 at 7:53 am #655371
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    Tony Farrelly

    An Erogenic is simply an
    An Erogenic is simply an external enhancement to performance, it’s not by itself illegal – only the ones defined as such by the powers that be are illegal. Clothing, food, your bike, HRMs, and cycle computers, all could be defined as ergogenic aids… your turbo trainer or even your water bottle could strictly be said to be ergogenic aids.

    The ergogenic benefit of something like that SIS drink is I would guess the speed at which it delivers the nutrients contained in it to your blood stream and muscles and that it is formulated to give the maximum amount of the right nutrients.

    September 23, 2011 at 6:08 am #655369
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    the_mikey

    I can only guess the people
    I can only guess the people who produced that web page spend more time in the cake shop and cafe than riding their bike…

    September 23, 2011 at 4:11 am #655367
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    stealth

    An interesting one
    An interesting one that!
    Firstly, if you are actually Racing you need to very careful what you are using, the CTT book lists loads of illegal substances and other regulations.
    Secondly, if you are riding Sportives you are NOT racing! The only things that you are competing against are the course and yourself. So anybody that consciously takes an ‘illegal’ substance really needs to ask themselves whether they actually enjoy what they do.
    Thirdly, the drink manufacturers also normally supply the pro’s too, so have to keep on top of the rules for ‘allowed substances’. Reading some of the press for GB/Sky with CNP products, they really seem to be pushing the boundaries of what is allowed.

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