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September 11, 2011 at 5:07 pm #14212
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Gkam84
Well i have a TT team lined
Well i have a TT team lined up, but pretty annoyed that its not going to be limited by country rather than team, because i want to put in 3 from the same team, but can’t even though they are from 3 different countries and as they are racing for their countries, i dont see why it should be limited by team X(TERatcliffe26
well mollema isnt doing the
well mollema isnt doing the TT and i cant see any of them doing it tbh, especially when teams can only select twostewieatb
Thought so, thanks Dave
Thought so, thanks Dave đŸ™‚
dave atkinson
Gkam84 wrote:Yeah but the
Gkam84 wrote:Yeah but the rules are different for having grey’d out riders during a tour, i’m pretty sure you cant start a race with grey’d out riders as its then not a vaild teamyou just have to have nine riders selected. doesn’t matter if they’re greyed out.
Gkam84
Yeah but the rules are
Yeah but the rules are different for having grey’d out riders during a tour, i’m pretty sure you cant start a race with grey’d out riders as its then not a vaild teamI’m sure Dave will clear this up or move some of the riders into different categories to cover that issue
stewieatb
Just had a read through the
Just had a read through the rules, I don’t think there’s anything to stop you from entering Dekkers as your sprinter. The rules say that you have to have a roster of 9 riders, they don’t say anything about whether they have to be riding that stage or not. By the way, Bauke Mollema can TT a bit, so there shouldn’t be a total shortage of climbers.TERatcliffe26
yh but if there are no PC
yh but if there are no PC guys at all, what will the difference be as everyone’s team will be invalid in that caseGkam84
TERatcliffe26 wrote:The road
TERatcliffe26 wrote:The road race will be much easy to pick anyway due to it being like a normal stage, im finding the TT hard, i want 5 DS’s to feel like i have a strong teamand putting in mr Dekkers to free up cash wont exactly help either based on who i have picked and the lack of (current non existance to my knowledge) PC KM riders,
Unless Dekkers is riding the TT then you cant have him in, it will leave you with the 9 valid riders to start the TT because its like the start of any new race, you must have 9 riders who are on the start list
drheaton
TERatcliffe26 wrote:The road
TERatcliffe26 wrote:The road race will be much easy to pick anyway due to it being like a normal stage, im finding the TT hard, i want 5 DS’s to feel like i have a strong teamand putting in mr Dekkers to free up cash wont exactly help either based on who i have picked and the lack of (current non existance to my knowledge) PC KM riders,
As usual all the TTers are all-rounders so despite the likes of Taylor Phinney and Dave Zabriskie being likely to finish top 20 I can’t see them being massively popular just down to who else is in the that category. Hopefully next year with some added flexibility in how you set up your team we can have a bit more freedom on who we choose.
I think everyone is going to struggle to pick someone likely to finish in the top 20 from the PC and KM list, I can’t find anyone that I’m overly confident of and to be honest most of them probably won’t even compete.
Dave, if there are no/few sprinters/climbers competing in the TT and we pick someone like Dekkers or Hinault who are cheap but not racing will our team still be valid? I know having greyed out riders is fine mid-tour but usually you need a valid team going into the first stage. How does that apply for classics and the worlds?
TERatcliffe26
The road race will be much
The road race will be much easy to pick anyway due to it being like a normal stage, im finding the TT hard, i want 5 DS’s to feel like i have a strong teamand putting in mr Dekkers to free up cash wont exactly help either based on who i have picked and the lack of (current non existance to my knowledge) PC KM riders,
fxceltic
drheaton wrote:Gkam84
drheaton wrote:Gkam84 wrote:Ok, so i made up a mock teamBradley WIGGINS
Mark CAVENDISH
David MILLAR
Jonathan BELLIS
Christopher FROOME
Daniel LLOYDSo if that for instance was the British team and Cav won a sprint finish, does that mean i’ve already made 45 points without anyone else finishing in the top 20?
20 for Cav’s win and 5 for the rest cause they are British, or only 20 for the win because non of the rest are from HTC??
My understanding is that you would get 45 points as each Brit would get 5pts but you would not be allowed to have EBH as another rider as that would take you to three Team Sky riders.
you could do this but overall you wouldnt do that well in the road race with those riders, not on this course.
You’d get your 20 points for Cav and 5 for each of the others, so 60 points or so, but I would doubt any of them would come in the top 20 really, bar Cav.Better to go for people finishing in the top 20, perhaps augmented by a couple of brits, maybe GT for example.
fxceltic
agreed, my knowledge of the
agreed, my knowledge of the peloton over the last 2 years has gone through the roof, I know the palmares of a lot of DS’s like the back of my hand, its actually a bit embarrassing.My love for the consistency of Konstantin Sivtsovs point scoring knows no bounds.
drheaton
Gkam84 wrote:Ok, so i made up
Gkam84 wrote:Ok, so i made up a mock teamBradley WIGGINS
Mark CAVENDISH
David MILLAR
Jonathan BELLIS
Christopher FROOME
Daniel LLOYDSo if that for instance was the British team and Cav won a sprint finish, does that mean i’ve already made 45 points without anyone else finishing in the top 20?
20 for Cav’s win and 5 for the rest cause they are British, or only 20 for the win because non of the rest are from HTC??
My understanding is that you would get 45 points as each Brit would get 5pts but you would not be allowed to have EBH as another rider as that would take you to three Team Sky riders.
dave atkinson
i know a *lot* more about pro
i know a *lot* more about pro racing than i did a year ago đŸ˜€drheaton
I agree, I’ve always watched
I agree, I’ve always watched the TdF but never so much the Giro or Vuelta but the last two years I’ve got alot more into these races. It’s also caused me to pay more attention to who’s in the breakaways, which Domestiques are doing well and who’s in form rather than just watching sprint finishes and waiting for the mountains where it gets interesting. -
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