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    Dr Winston

    Yeah….time to go climbing and rolling. Fields are getting stronger and stronger, no idea where to even start to try and unpick this one after the TT…

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  • #939035
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    MinardiM189

    Just checked out the rule

    Just checked out the rule book and it was the fastest times up the hill that counted for KoM points. So the difference between INT1 & INT2 times n the ITT.

    I was sure that Schachmann was presented with the KoM shirt too, there was a photo on twitter. Bora thought he had won too.

    However in a later tweet it was announced Martinez had won it.

    All 3 were on road bikes, so I though there might have been an odd rule discounting ITT bikes from KoM competition. cheeky

    #939033
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    Dr Winston
    stevemarks wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Yeah….Won the stage in the purist game….all down hill from here.

    Been there, It’s strange and horrible because theres such a sense of helplessness. 😉

     

    Debated long and hard Martinez/Denis choose the wrong one, for the wrong reasons. Not got a clue what will happen today. At least I put some real money on Schachmann yesterday sofens the blow somewhat.

     

    I am increasingly concerned about TT specialists underperforming in TT’s and surprisingly good performances from others. I know this was a different TT but there seems to be a general lack of definition. What the hell has happened to Tony Martin?

    Considered him (put him in my purist team) but also, as above, considered Pogacar as well…either one would have been instead of Dennis. I think I was probably much closer to punting on Pogacar than Martinez though.

    #939031
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    stevemarks
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Yeah….Won the stage in the purist game….all down hill from here.

    Been there, It’s strange and horrible because theres such a sense of helplessness. 😉

     

    Debated long and hard Martinez/Denis choose the wrong one, for the wrong reasons. Not got a clue what will happen today. At least I put some real money on Schachmann yesterday sofens the blow somewhat.

     

    I am increasingly concerned about TT specialists underperforming in TT’s and surprisingly good performances from others. I know this was a different TT but there seems to be a general lack of definition. What the hell has happened to Tony Martin?

    #939029
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    Dr Winston
    teckert wrote:
    Very happy with my starting selection. 5 of the top 7 scorers to lead the standard comp. 🙂

    Yeah….well played teckert…

    #939027
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    teckert

    Very happy with my starting

    Very happy with my starting selection. Leading the standard comp with 5 of the top 7 scorers. 🙂

    #939025
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Stage 12 of the Vuelta ?

    Yep…that was it. Just checked the results and it was a reall man up of all sorts of riders. Do you think a similar.ar stage and result?

    Different scenario. There were huge gaps in GC already in the Vuelta and the break was allowed a huge lead.

    Tomorrow the break will not be allowed a big gap, unless it is only Padun and Wang.

    Bora will want to keep the jersey and QS might want to set it up for Alaphilippe.

    I think the narrow roads will cause the biggest problem, I’m sure there will be splits. If GC contenders are caught the other teams will probably drive it home.

    Given the gap to the break shouldn’t be that great, they will probably get caught and we will see a reduced group uphill sprint.

    Dan Martin will get caught out, Simon Clarke will be working to help Martinez limit losses.

    Aye. More or less my initial thoughts. Quite a good stage for somebody to try and run away but I doubt they’ll be let go. 

    #939023
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Stage 12 of the Vuelta ?

    Yep…that was it. Just checked the results and it was a reall man up of all sorts of riders. Do you think a similar.ar stage and result?

    Different scenario. There were huge gaps in GC already in the Vuelta and the break was allowed a huge lead.

    Tomorrow the break will not be allowed a big gap, unless it is only Padun and Wang.

    Bora will want to keep the jersey and QS might want to set it up for Alaphilippe.

    I think the narrow roads will cause the biggest problem, I’m sure there will be splits. If GC contenders are caught the other teams will probably drive it home.

    Given the gap to the break shouldn’t be that great, they will probably get caught and we will see a reduced group uphill sprint.

    Dan Martin will get caught out, Simon Clarke will be working to help Martinez limit losses.

    #939021
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    Dr Winston

    Yeah….Won the stage in the

    Yeah….Won the stage in the purist game….all down hill from here.

    #939019
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    We had a similar looking stage at some point last year…do you recall it?….maybe it was one at the Giro. If you can bring it to mind let me know so I can see how it planned out. It was just a very long ending on roads only about two widths wide and rolling all the way. That’s all I can remember.

    Stage 12 of the Vuelta ?

    Yep…that was it. Just checked the results and it was a reall man up of all sorts of riders. Do you think a similar.ar stage and result?

    #939017
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    We had a similar looking stage at some point last year…do you recall it?….maybe it was one at the Giro. If you can bring it to mind let me know so I can see how it planned out. It was just a very long ending on roads only about two widths wide and rolling all the way. That’s all I can remember.

    Stage 12 of the Vuelta ?

    #939015
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Tomorrow should be even more fun working out who to pick.

    The last 40km include 6 stretches of very narrow gravel roads, 4 stretches of even narrower footpath and 4 or 5 Basque ‘walls’ thrown in the mix.

    Then a relatively simple sprint with the last 600m averaging 6%.

    To make things even simpler for the riders it is forecast to be wet and windy tomorrow afternoon.

    PS. Don’t forget the KoM points for the ITT. Schachmann 3+5, Martinez 2+4, Yates 1+3

    Just looked at that stage for tomorrow….it has the potential to undo a lot of good that the GC boys did for themselves today. What’s your thinking?….breakaway with the GC boys staying close at hand would be my thoughts. A win for one of many of dozens of potential winners….Lutsenko, Sanchez, Ulissi etc…

    Difficult to call.

    I expect some GC teams to try and make it hard at the end as they could quite easily put UAE & EFE in difficulty and put their GC contenders out of contention.

    Chances of crashes on the narrow roads are high, as are the chances of punctures. Riders risk getting dropped waiting for team cars.

    The break could win it as a lot of teams don’t want rivals taking bonus seconds. Although I think Bora will want to keep the jersey so probably won’t allow a huge gap to develop.

     

    We had a similar looking stage at some point last year…do you recall it?….maybe it was one at the Giro. If you can bring it to mind let me know so I can see how it planned out. It was just a very long ending on roads only about two widths wide and rolling all the way. That’s all I can remember.

    #939013
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Tomorrow should be even more fun working out who to pick.

    The last 40km include 6 stretches of very narrow gravel roads, 4 stretches of even narrower footpath and 4 or 5 Basque ‘walls’ thrown in the mix.

    Then a relatively simple sprint with the last 600m averaging 6%.

    To make things even simpler for the riders it is forecast to be wet and windy tomorrow afternoon.

    PS. Don’t forget the KoM points for the ITT. Schachmann 3+5, Martinez 2+4, Yates 1+3

    Just looked at that stage for tomorrow….it has the potential to undo a lot of good that the GC boys did for themselves today. What’s your thinking?….breakaway with the GC boys staying close at hand would be my thoughts. A win for one of many of dozens of potential winners….Lutsenko, Sanchez, Ulissi etc…

    Difficult to call.

    I expect some GC teams to try and make it hard at the end as they could quite easily put UAE & EFE in difficulty and put their GC contenders out of contention.

    Chances of crashes on the narrow roads are high, as are the chances of punctures. Riders risk getting dropped waiting for team cars.

    The break could win it as a lot of teams don’t want rivals taking bonus seconds. Although I think Bora will want to keep the jersey so probably won’t allow a huge gap to develop.

     

    #939011
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Tomorrow should be even more fun working out who to pick.

    The last 40km include 6 stretches of very narrow gravel roads, 4 stretches of even narrower footpath and 4 or 5 Basque ‘walls’ thrown in the mix.

    Then a relatively simple sprint with the last 600m averaging 6%.

    To make things even simpler for the riders it is forecast to be wet and windy tomorrow afternoon.

    PS. Don’t forget the KoM points for the ITT. Schachmann 3+5, Martinez 2+4, Yates 1+3

    Just looked at that stage for tomorrow….it has the potential to undo a lot of good that the GC boys did for themselves today. What’s your thinking?….breakaway with the GC boys staying close at hand would be my thoughts. A win for one of many of dozens of potential winners….Lutsenko, Sanchez, Ulissi etc…

    #939009
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Well  got that wrong. Should have stuck with my gut feeling about Dennis….Thinking my purist team has beaten mys standard team by a distance.

    Dennis wasn’t far down at the top of the climb but lost a sackful on the descent.

    What gearing were JumboVisma using ? Two of their riders fell off after coming to a standstill near the summit of the climb.

    I thought I saw that Minardi, but then thought I must have misread it. Did he not puncture or something on the way down…seems like a lot to lose.

    #939007
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    Condor Andy
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    PS. Don’t forget the KoM points for the ITT. Schachmann 3+5, Martinez 2+4, Yates 1+3

    I won’t! Saw a comment on Reddit that the climb counts towards the comp so went to look it up and added it to the stage scoring this morning. Cheers for the heads up smiley

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