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Rapha , Shutt Alternative ?? (Torm)

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  • October 11, 2010 at 9:58 am #12767
    phax71

    Hi

    Found these guys:

    http://www.torm.cc/

    at The Cycle Show at the weekend, seems like pretty good stuff …

    Has anyone purchased and used any of their gear?

    Cheers!

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  • October 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm #638085
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    Miggers

    TheHatter wrote:Miggers

    TheHatter wrote:
    Miggers wrote:
    Fringe wrote:
    Miggers wrote:
    Buy one and compare with a Rapha jersey and make your own judgement. I did..

    and that is..?


    Let’s just say that if I was Rapha I’d be taking ‘advice’…

    I really don’t think there’s any legal recourse if that’s what you’re implying. Making a similar jersey and being inspired by anothers website isn’t unlawful. Rapha don’t have a copyright on moody photos and understated jumpers. Its not like the company is called Repha.cc.


    Hi Hatter… It not the website or the similarities in design… You’d need to see 2 jerseys next to each other to see why Rapha might be a bit miffed… Miggers

    October 11, 2010 at 6:27 pm #638083
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    scottydug

    I have 2 columba jerseys.
    I have 2 columba jerseys. I’ve worn them more than my rapha jerseys. They seem to fare better in the machine too. The softshell is v good having said that. As a brand/website Rapha seem peerless (apple of the cycling world?). I admire the bussiness nous behind them and the apparent passion. Pricey though, but goodluck to them…..

    October 11, 2010 at 6:22 pm #638081
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    TheHatter

    Miggers wrote:Fringe

    Miggers wrote:
    Fringe wrote:
    Miggers wrote:
    Buy one and compare with a Rapha jersey and make your own judgement. I did..

    and that is..?


    Let’s just say that if I was Rapha I’d be taking ‘advice’…

    I really don’t think there’s any legal recourse if that’s what you’re implying. Making a similar jersey and being inspired by anothers website isn’t unlawful. Rapha don’t have a copyright on moody photos and understated jumpers. Its not like the company is called Repha.cc.

    October 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm #638079
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    Miggers

    Fringe wrote:Miggers

    Fringe wrote:
    Miggers wrote:
    Buy one and compare with a Rapha jersey and make your own judgement. I did..

    and that is..?


    Let’s just say that if I was Rapha I’d be taking ‘advice’…

    October 11, 2010 at 4:07 pm #638077
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    Fringe

    Miggers wrote:Buy one and

    Miggers wrote:
    Buy one and compare with a Rapha jersey and make your own judgement. I did..

    and that is..?

    October 11, 2010 at 3:50 pm #638075
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    Miggers

    I chatted with Torm at the
    I chatted with Torm at the show, they are very much ‘inspired’ by Rapha designs.. Buy one and compare with a Rapha jersey and make your own judgement. I did..

    Interesting comparison with Colomba, I seem to remember them getting slapped wrist from Rapha in the past from over enthusiastic ‘inspiration’?!

    Love them or hate them Rapha do invest in R&D, do make great kit [scarves excepted] and put a lot of money back in to cycling.

    I felt that Torm are out to make a quick buck.

    October 11, 2010 at 2:57 pm #638073
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    dave atkinson

    I think they’re being
    I think they’re being compared because they’re making a stripey jersey out of Sportwool™ and knocking it out for £45. Sportwool™ is what Rapha use as well, and they’re well noted for their stripey jerseys, but theirs cost quite a bit more.

    There’s plenty of discussions on road.cc already about the value, or otherwise, of Rapha’s gear; the general feeling in the office is that it’s great quality stuff, works well and is very nicely detailed, and if you want to buy it and you have the money then you won’t be disappointed. Except for that scarf. Let’s not pretend it’s made of some magical exclusive material hand-stitched by virgins in a fairytale castle though, cause it isn’t.

    Let the great ‘I love Rapha’ vs ‘I hate Rapha’ discussion begin. Again.

    😀

    October 11, 2010 at 2:47 pm #638071
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    Jon Burrage

    Rapha stuff looks good right
    Rapha stuff looks good right enough but take the shutt vr stuff, cheaper than rapha and really quite good too. Until road.cc have tested a torm top then we cant say its not as good.

    On the face of it, the prices would suggest rapha is better than torm.

    October 11, 2010 at 2:41 pm #638069
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    simonmb

    With Rapha it’s not just a
    With Rapha it’s not just a stripey jersey you’re buying. You’re buying a good cut, good material, and good workmanship (plus, admittedly, an expensive marketing campaign). How is Torm being compared to Rapha? I haven’t seen anyone comparing Colnago with Huffy just because the bikes look sort of similar. You get what you pay for in clothing as well as bikes! I don’t think the guys at Rapha will be losing any sleep over this. It’s Harvey Nicks vs. Poundstretcher!

    October 11, 2010 at 2:14 pm #638067
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    Jon Burrage

    they do have an email address
    they do have an email address visible on the site – have not recieved a reply yet so who knows if it works.

    October 11, 2010 at 1:41 pm #638065
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    step-hent

    Agree they are more colomba
    Agree they are more colomba (and shutt vr) than rapha – in photographic style and garment design. except for the arm warmers, which look like a straight copy of the rapha ones.

    like the look of the double chest striped one. at £45, I might give it a go.

    October 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm #638063
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    dave atkinson

    To be fair to Torm, Rapha
    To be fair to Torm, Rapha don’t have the copyright on banded jerseys – they’ve been around since the 1940s at least – or Sportwool, which is freely available to anyone that wants to make a shirt out of it.

    I’d say their photographic style was a bit more Colomba than Rapha :B

    October 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm #638061
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    Fixie Girl

    I can see Rapha writing these
    I can see Rapha writing these guys a stern letter… total ripoff even down to the photography…

    No phone number on the site, forms not working… Caveat Emptor I think you brits say 🙂

    October 11, 2010 at 10:57 am #638059
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    dave atkinson

    haven’t tried it… we would
    haven’t tried it… we would tap them up for some review gear but the contact form on their website doesn’t seem to work. i guess we could pick up the phone or something 😐

    October 11, 2010 at 10:47 am #638057
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    James Warrener

    thats a good price for a
    thats a good price for a jersey !

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