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Turbos for Zwift….

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  • November 2, 2018 at 6:43 pm #29100
    slowclimb

    I am looking at entering the mysterious world of Zwift and cant decide which turbo to go for, I’ve always had basic turbos in the past and I’m trying to decide between the Elite Muin and the Tacx Flow T2240, the Muin is a direct drive which I do fancy but it seems to a pretty basic model.
    Any guidance on them would be much appreciated!

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  • November 5, 2018 at 11:09 am #930787
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    Sniffer

    I don’t think the Muin is an

    I don’t think the Muin is an opton for Zwift.  You need a trainer with resistance that can be controlled by Zwift to get the proper experience.  For Elite that is the Direto or Drivo on direct drive trainers.

    I collected a Drivo from Halfords or Friday.  The older model, but at 50% off and £600 (£540 with BC discount) I though it was a great option at that price point.

    https://www.halfords.com/cycling/turbo-trainers/trainers/elite-drivo-direct-drive-smart-turbo-trainer

    It is showing out of stock this morning.  They may be all gone, but last Monday they were showing no stock, but by Tuesday they were available again so you might get lucky.

     

     

    November 5, 2018 at 10:17 am #930785
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    cdean

    As I understand it, the Tacx

    As I understand it, the Tacx Flow Smart can be controlled by Zwift etc. to change the resistance when going uphill or doing a structured workout, but the Elite Muin can’t. As described in this review, “There’s no remote adjustment, as resistance increases automatically the harder you ride in any gear” https://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/accessories/resistance-trainer/product/review-elite-turbo-muin-15-49069/ That takes away one of the big selling points of using Zwift IMO, although I haven’t used a trainer like the Muin with it.

     

    I recently went through a similar decision-making process to you and bought the Tacx Flux. Tack are bringing out a couple of new versions with an improved spec, so Halfords have the original Flux for £450, discounted from £700, which you can save an extra 10% on with British Cycling Discount. I’m really pleased with it. It has plenty of resistance for me and it’s great having Zwift control the power when you’re doing a structured workout session or going up a (virtual) hill (it adjusts the gradient up to 10%, which is enough for me). The only thing I don’t like is that it’s really heavy and fairly huge and I don’t have a dedicated space for training so moving it around is a PITA: https://www.halfords.com/cycling/turbo-trainers/trainers/tacx-flux-smart-trainer

    November 5, 2018 at 9:57 am #930783
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    slowclimb

    Thanks for all the info

    Thanks for all the info everybody!
    And yeah Jetmans Dad has hit the nail on the head, as much as I would love to get a great £800+ direct drive turbo budget is tight so as cheap as possible while still being Zwift compatible is going to be the way I’m afraid 🙁
    The muin seems pretty cheap for a direct drive thats whats making me a tad sceptical… 

    November 3, 2018 at 6:32 pm #930781
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    Jetmans Dad
    CXR94Di2 wrote:
    Max gradient should be above 10%, ideally 15%

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    I would look at £600 price range

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    If you’re looking to get the best then £800+

    I would venture to suggest that if the choice is the Flow Smart or the Muin then £600 or £800+ is probably out of the question. 

    Of the two, I would go for the Muin (even though I have, and love the Flow) as it has a wider range of simulated max gradient, and gets closer to the ideal setup than the Flow. 

    As someone else said … get the best smart trainer you can afford. As £200 was the most I could afford, I went with the Flow and don’t regret it for a second. If I had had the extra £250 I would probably have gone for the Muin. 

    November 3, 2018 at 9:15 am #930779
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    JackBuxton

    Perhaps above your price

    Perhaps above your price range but I cannot recommend Tacx Neo’s enough. I work in an indoor cycle studio in London (called Urban Cycle Club if you’re interested) and we’ve got 8 Tacx Neo’s that have all done a minimum of 10,000km so far this year, and take an absolute beating from some of our more powerful riders. The only maintenance that we’ve had to do is give them the ocassional wipe down and replace the cassettes attached. Worth noting that i may have seen a discount online somewhere, meaning you can pick one up for £800 or so which is an absolute steal IMO.

     

    November 3, 2018 at 7:55 am #930777
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    CXR94Di2

    This is something I know a

    This is something I know a little about.

    Zwift, Trainer-Road, BigRingVR etc all need to connect to your trainer via Ant+ or Bluetooth- You will need a dongle for Ant+ and an extension lead from your laptop/PC to get the sensor close to the turbo(improves signal/eliminates dropouts)  I use Ant+

     

    Turbos, two basic types of ‘smart’ trainer-direct drive and wheel on

    Three basic figures you’re are looking for ‘max gradient simulation’, ‘power accuracy’ and ‘max power’.  The last can be disregarded by most, unless you’re world class track sprinter.

    Max gradient should be above 10%, ideally 15%

    Accuracy less than 3% deviation

    Max power  greater than 1000W

    Also ERG mode, which virtually all decent turbos do now.

     

    Best brands, Wahoo, Tacx, Elite and Cyclops

    I would look at £600 price range

    Wahoo Kickr Snap

    Wahoo Core

    Tacx Flux smart

    Elite Direto

    These are mid range turbos and more than suitable for most folk

     

    If you’re looking to get the best then £800+

    Wahoo Kickr

    Tacx Neo/2

    Elite Drivo

     

    If you’ve done turbo training before then you will probably have a big fan to cool you down. 

     

     

    November 3, 2018 at 2:11 am #930775
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    Russell Orgazoid

    The best Smart trainer you

    The best Smart trainer you can afford.

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