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28mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres on a road bike

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  • March 19, 2018 at 12:28 pm #28264
    cornishpasty02

    Hi,

     

    I’m looking for advice on fitting 28mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to a road bike, B Twin Triban 520. I know the 520 can take up to 28mm, but I’ve also been told by a guy in cycle surgery that these would not fit on a road bike because of the type of rim (no idea what he means). On the flip side I’ve seen online posts about people fitting them on road bikes. Has anyone experience with these tyres, are the intended for Hybrids only?

     

    Would there be an issue fitting these to the rims that come with the Triban 520? I ideally wanted 32mm but also need full mudguards.

     

     http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/bike-tyres/schwalbe-marathon-plus-reflex-tyre-700x28c

     

    Thanks in advance!

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  • April 6, 2020 at 2:49 pm #914931
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    Dnnnnnn

    Spa Cycles video about

    Spa Cycles video about fitting M+ tyres is helpful if you haven’t already seen it (or similar other). New M+ are still harder to fit than most tyres but ‘kneading’ them down into the rim and working around that way does help give you a bit more slack when it comes to getting the last part on.

    And, so long as you don’t pinch the tube… once on, you probably won’t be needing to take them off again for a long time 

    Should also have said, I only use them for my city commuter. The weekend bike has Durano Plus – still a little on the heavy side but can’t remember the last time I’d a puncture and it’s good training for occasional overseas trips (remember those…?) when swapping to some lightweight rubber saves a few seconds up Alpine passes.

    April 6, 2020 at 8:10 am #914933
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    Shades

    I used to be a big fan of

    I used to be a big fan of Marathon Plus but went off them as they weigh a ton, are an absolute pig to take on/off and, more importantly, I found them a bit ‘slippy’ in the wet (even lower presssures).  The rubber on the tread is really ‘hard’ (puncture resistant characteristics?) and I think that contributes to the problem.  I’ve shifted to Marathon Supremes; folding, lighter and (supposedly) good puncture protection.  Haven’t used them enough to get an opinion and 32mm could be the smallest size.

    April 5, 2020 at 3:52 pm #914929
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    Rakkor
    cornishpasty02 wrote:
     

    Apparently the 520 can fit a 32, but without mudguards. T

     

     

    I can confirm the 520 can fit 32’s with muguards – Mine has Huchinson Sector 32’s and SKS Blumels fitted

    April 5, 2020 at 2:31 pm #914927
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    zero_trooper

    Zip ties worked great for me

    Zip ties worked great for me on a generic Raleigh wheel. Swapped them over to Fulcrums no problem, except somewhat ironically puncturing almost immediately. Poor fitting by me? Possibly, tho’ I’m usually pretty thorough about these things.

    April 5, 2020 at 12:47 pm #914925
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    deanimate

    This is about the Triban

    This is about the Triban RC120 but wanted to post in case it’s of an use to someone.

    Bought this bike a few days ago. Was going to get the 520 but then heard that installing marathon plus tyres on the rubless ready wheels of the 520 are a nightmare so got the standard RC120.

    It was still an absolutely joke getting the Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres on…my god.
    I really thought they would not go on and started looking for other tyres. You get one side of the tyre onto the rim just fine. But you cannot get even a tiny bit of the other side onto the rim. It’s almost like the tyre needs to be deeper. It will not stay in there at all.

    Before giving up I tried some zip ties tied down as tight as i could possibly get them. I had 3 of them spaced roughly 10-15cm apart and after a bit of faff managed to finally get the rest of the damn tyre to start slotting onto the rim like normal. Towards the end I used a velcro strap and then tyre leves like normal to get the last bit on and that was that! Success! 

    It sounds like it’s the rim from what I’ve read.

    That was the front wheel. Weirdly the rear wheel went on with just one zip tie and velcro strap.

    March 24, 2018 at 2:17 am #914923
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    Boatsie

    Fish_n_Chips wrote:

    Fish_n_Chips wrote:

    Heavy but comfy.  Good for winter puncture protection.

     

    If you get a wire bead, washing up liquid suds help the tyre slide on easily and dries quickly.

    Truck tyres being similar to bead use commercial wax or hair conditioner in back yard.
    Dishwashing liquid can damage paint.

    March 23, 2018 at 8:43 pm #914921
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    Fish_n_Chips

    Heavy but comfy.  Good for

    Heavy but comfy.  Good for winter puncture protection.

     

    If you get a wire bead, washing up liquid suds help the tyre slide on easily and dries quickly.

    March 21, 2018 at 5:34 am #914919
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    Boatsie

    If the Marathon plus are
    If the Marathon plus are large volume tyres although the same indication of size; they will balloon heaps better and provide a cushion ride.
    I just typing, don’t know the tyre but they look like a Session tyre I used in terms of size/balloon /cross section.
    All my road bikes fit 28mm maxxis yet not all fit 28 mm Session. Probably what the lbs said in different words.
    Depending upon bike use, if riding hack tracks, tow paths, etc I’d prefer the slower tyre any day because it’s faster on that bumpy stuff due to less jarring. Pretty sure it didn’t fit between brake arms due to height. Maybe similar with the Marathon. Plus.

    March 20, 2018 at 2:43 pm #914917
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    Simon E wrote:
    M+ is overkill for most people. The standard Marathon is only £16 at Spa Cycles and is a tough tyre.

    Do you really need a treaded tyre? Durano Plus is very good, tougher than most road bike tyres but much better rolling resistance than most touring type tyres like the Marathon. I’ve used a pair for 2,600 miles of Shropshire’s sh*t & stone strewn lanes and they look barely worn (and no p-words). The standard Durano are also excellent tyres. Spa stock the Durano & Durano Plus in several sizes and both folding & wire bead – see the Road Tyres section. BTW I don’t have any connection with them other than as a satisfied customer.

     

    I agree with this, a Marathon Plus is overkill for a road bike. Sure punctures can be annoying but I wouldn’t sacrifice so much in the way of performance by trying to avoid them. Sometimes punctures will just happen, no matter how thick your tires are. 

    A Durano is a much more sensible tyre choice and is tough and grippy without having too much impact on performance. In the end of the day we all buy road bikes as we want a bike to go fast with! A Marathon Plus is a more appropiate tire for a hybrid or adventure bike. 

    March 20, 2018 at 2:20 pm #914915
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    cornishpasty02

    Thanks for all the advice. 

    Thanks for all the advice. 

     

    I have bought 2 Vittoria Randonneur II from Planet X so I will see how they go. They’re so cheap, after that I’ll try the Durano Plus if I dont like them. 

     

     

    March 20, 2018 at 1:05 pm #914913
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    Simon E

    M+ is overkill for most

    M+ is overkill for most people. The standard Marathon is only £16 at Spa Cycles and is a tough tyre.

    Do you really need a treaded tyre? Durano Plus is very good, tougher than most road bike tyres but much better rolling resistance than most touring type tyres like the Marathon. I’ve used a pair for 2,600 miles of Shropshire’s sh*t & stone strewn lanes and they look barely worn (and no p-words). The standard Durano are also excellent tyres. Spa stock the Durano & Durano Plus in several sizes and both folding & wire bead – see the Road Tyres section. BTW I don’t have any connection with them other than as a satisfied customer.

    March 20, 2018 at 9:17 am #914911
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    Yrcm

    Have got a backup set of

    Have got a backup set of Marathon Plus in 28mm for our road tandem for use when we want complete peace of mind, they’re chuffing heavy and noticeably affect the weight and feel of the bike but they’re not too difficult to fit on those particular rims.

    They are super tough tyres, last forever and the 40mm ones we have on our other tandem have never flatted (*touches wood*)

    Got Duranos on the road bike and whilst they are a good tyre and roll well they do seem to wear quickly and they’re not invulnerable, but one pinch flat and one complete failure in 1900 miles isn’t to bad as a record. The failure was just after I fitted them new, so wonder if it was a duff tyre or just plain bad luck.

    March 19, 2018 at 8:46 pm #914909
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    kil0ran

    +1 for Randonneurs although

    +1 for Randonneurs although they were also a bitch to fit (on Shimano RS11s). Look slightly lower profile than Marathons so should give better clearance. Dirt cheap from Decathlon too.

    March 19, 2018 at 8:10 pm #914907
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    Dnnnnnn
    cornishpasty02 wrote:
     The guy in the shop said to go for Schwalbe Durano as they have the same puncture resistance but are suitable for road bikes

    Durano Plus are pretty good for puncture resistance but not as good as Marathon Plus. The anti-puncture strip is thicker in the latter.

    http://www.schwalbe.com/en-GB/road-reader/durano-plus.html

    March 19, 2018 at 5:30 pm #914905
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    mike the bike

     

     

    Might I suggest Mr Pasty, that before buying your tyres you have a look at bicyclerollingresistance.com where you can find some impartial information about many tyres.  As well as how much of your energy is needed to push them along, it covers puncture resistance, weight and construction and also allows you to directly compare one tyre with another.

    When you consider that there is a huge amount of anecdotal flannel talked about tyres it could be half-an-hour well spent.

     

    PS There are other tyre testing laboratories available. 

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