Indulge me + any other luddites – What ‘gravel’ frameset with rim brakes?

Cheers.
Cheers. BTW the bars weren’t perpendicular, I lied exaggerating how important brakes are and I scored another big word. Lol. Was pitch black though and some idiot had footed a pole about an inch of a top speed head on though. Guessing 40 clicks; life begins.
They read like perfect brakes, about 20mm shorter on arms then current brakes.

Luddites is a big word. No
Luddites is a big word. No data and not pedantic.
My gravel bike problem is.. Brake levers need to pull on arms because at 90kmph down 10% current system not so good. Budget tight.
Will be sourcing bent tube and tube clamps as temporary fix. Eg. Should last years.
Current frame set was flatbar and they seem to pull more brake line than the now fitted dropbar levers.
Tried fitting the wheel into dual pivot brakes. At 38 mm the brake assembly seizes the wheel.
At 5 cm inner diameter the pulley seems large yet as cheap to organize I will try such as it has been measured and should fit without obstruction to grip or drive.
I would rather dual pivot but I don’t know any and if available can wait 6 months as this isn’t drilling nor altering the bicycle cable network; just clamping pulleys.
Regardless of brakes she should get up and go alright. Final spinning a 53-13 after single rear stepping from 53-19.

Hope this helps with your endeavour of rim brakes. I have perpendicular bent a steel handle bar from rolling into a street pole and nowadays I much like brakes that allow skid just in case.

Liking cantilevers due to
Liking cantilevers due to clearance.
Not sure if dual pivot road calipers will fit tyre but will mock fit into another bike soon to establish possibly.
Front guards not really required on this bike as frame copes with our weather.

Was thinking of bracing brake cable loop onto fork and pulling pulley with handlebar cable to double the throw.  Seems messy upfront.   Might neat fit on rear using naked cable along toptube as location of pulley system and rear of toptube as rear brake cable attachment point.

Just an idea.  Thought someone else might be able to utilize idea with similar short throw dropbar brake levers.  Could allow strong rear rim clamp and guards without expensive replacements.

I know that’s on my wish list regarding a gravel bike.  2 half circular tubes with central outer attachments to accommodate 1.2 mm cable inside tube and at attachment.  1 motor car hose clamp.  Fork end unknown!

IanEdward wrote:

If you do a lot of riding in crap weather

At the risk of derailling the thread and turning it into my stock disc brake rant, it’s actually in crap weather that I value my rim brakes the most!

I’ve been through 2 bikes and 3 different sets of brakes, all of which sounded god-awful in the wet, which just put me off riding those bikes in crap conditions. Whether that was specific to me or not I don’t know, but I’ve decided I’ve now spent too much time and money trying to find a reasonably quiet set of disc brakes, and have given up.

People keep telling me it’s a set up thing, or a pad choice thing, or a contamination thing, or a bedding in thing, but my rim brakes suffer from none of this, all for the cost of a £20 set of decent pads. The local shops have struggled to sort it, and one mechanic even admitted he spent 50% of his time now trying to help people silence noisy disc brakes.

I would LOVE to be converted to discs, but until someone can promise me a set that doesn’t seem to require a degree in Voodoo Witch-doctory to run quiet in all conditions, I’ll stick with rim brakes.  

Anyway, rant over, I like rim brakes, frames still exist for them, happy days : )

 

I used to hate the noise my disc brakes make in the wet but with a change in perception I have learnt to love it.

As a general rule, the point where I am applying my brakes in such a way to make a noise is the same point that I would be using my bell to alert others to my presence. The majority of these occasions on my commute it involves a descent that in wet conditions results in me not wanting to move my hands away from the brake levers. As the brakes make such a loud noise in the wet it means that I do not have to use my bell so I am able to keep my hands over my brake levers and feel a lot safer as a result.

I’ve one rim braked bike and
I’ve one rim braked bike and one with discs. Both can easily chuck me over the handlebars if I squeeze hard enough and I don’t really notice any difference in effort. Modern dual pivot calipers are awesome, and I’d imagine the direct mount versions will be slightly better. If you do a lot of riding in crap weather and you value your rims then by all means go for discs and get a really nice wheelset but for most use cases rims do the job. If you’ve got the clearance long drop dual pivots can even work for light, dry gravel

I think rim brakes will have
I think rim brakes will have a renaissance, like vinyl. Most people are better served by disc brakes but all that does is increase the appeal of rims to people who want to be different. See also custom steel and lugged frames. I could have easily bought a more flashy bike off the peg for what I’ve paid for the Layhams but where’s the fun in that? Or the soul? Then again, I still dabble in film photography so I’m probably a bit weird…