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Positive bike article on BBC?

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  • January 21, 2018 at 5:19 pm #28058
    hawkinspeter

    Just read a nice BBC article about why women are less likely to cycle than men and thought it highlighted some good points. Some relate to men as well as women, but the women cyclists have to put up with sexist behaviour from male motorists/riders as well.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-41737483

    I reckon the BBC might be trying to offset all their anti-cycling articles.

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  • January 24, 2018 at 11:18 am #910491
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    Boatsie

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    🙂

    January 24, 2018 at 10:46 am #910489
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    peted76

    Aww, I love your moniker

    Aww, I love your moniker Boatsie.. give us a hug…no tongues !

    January 24, 2018 at 10:31 am #910487
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    Boatsie

    I love your photo peted76.
    I love your photo peted76.
    My work mate a keen cyclist; light weight composite bike, duro ace, etc and we were chatting.
    I get dumber often, I ride an unrestricted Kwaka (top speed >320kmph) and tire wear on edge. He was saying he leans into the corners.
    Huh, ain’t bicycles ridden vertical?
    Took a while… I like your photo.

    January 24, 2018 at 9:40 am #910485
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    srchar

    I read this article the other

    I read this article the other day and all I could think was, “all of these things have happened to me and I’m a man.”

    It’s either self-promotion or clickbait.

    To be truthful, I think men have a harder time than women when riding. Society is much quicker to aggress on men than women. Look at the example of the female triathlete who was pulled from her bike. The assailant’s first words were, “sorry, I thought you was a bloke.”

    January 24, 2018 at 9:02 am #910483
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    Grahamd

    fenix wrote:

    fenix wrote:
    Some people are too touchy.

    Agreed, and some of them are on this forum.

     

    January 24, 2018 at 8:15 am #910481
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    fenix

    Some people are too touchy.
    Some people are too touchy.

    January 22, 2018 at 7:59 pm #910479
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    ktache

    There is never anything wrong

    There is never anything wrong with a cheery good morning/afternoon/evening.

    Unless you are at work and someone arrives a tad late, then a hello can never be taken as sarcasm.

    January 22, 2018 at 6:57 pm #910477
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    Goldfever4
    kitkat wrote:
    I took exception to this bit. As far as I can see it’s looking for offence in anything. It’s just what ANY cyclist would say to another

    ”I’ve even had ‘keep pedalling, nearly there’ – from a male cyclist. They wouldn’t have said it to another man, it’s so patronising and uncalled for.

    otherwise fair enough 

     

    I also disagreed that the sentiment of that quote is specific to female cyclists – I have said this to male and female cyclists who were climbing a big hill before. And others have said it to me.

    However, in the wider context of her experiences (and how unwelcoming cycling can be to female cyclists) I’m not shocked that the conclusion she reached was patronising sexism.

    January 22, 2018 at 5:37 pm #910475
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    allanj

    Hmm, an interesting one that

    Hmm, an interesting one that certainly had me thinking.  I wonder if I, without thinking would give encouragement slightly differently to a man or a woman that I was passing?  I can see that I might, and while it clearly is not the end of the world, is the kind of everday sexism that can be pretty wearing I’m sure.

    No need to stop speaking to people on this basis (plenty of other reasons to not speak to people though, I’m quite happy with that), just a reminder to not inadvertently patronise or belittle

     

    January 22, 2018 at 4:00 pm #910473
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    peted76

    Tosh, any endurance sport of

    Tosh, any endurance sport of hobby suffers from the same dichotomy…. 

    I do however wonder if it’s a particualry British thing to feel awkward dishing out encouragement whilst worrying about sounding patronising. I can imagine our North American brothers and sisters, feeling very satisfied with themselves by dishing out or recieving words of ‘help’ whilst struggling up a long mountain climb or similar… 

     

    There’s a comedy sketch somewhere, on the side of the road, using ironic encouragment on people…  you can do it, if you really pedal hard you can catch that other slow kid.. 

     

    January 21, 2018 at 8:05 pm #910471
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    madcarew

    I’ve often said that, or the

    I’ve often said that, or the like as I’ve passed (or been passed by) other competitors in sportives and challenges. It’s simply part of the mutual support offered around in these events, especially in the latter parts when some people are struggling. However, we weren’t there on this occasion and can’t really know the circumstances, but contrary to what she said, it has been said to male competitors countless times.

    January 21, 2018 at 7:16 pm #910469
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    brooksby
    kitkat wrote:
    Best just not to say anything to anyone for fear of giving them PTSD

    I try not to: I’m contractually obliged to speak to people and answer the phone during office hours. Outside of that? F*** ’em, I’m under no obligation to speak to anyone!

    January 21, 2018 at 7:11 pm #910467
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    kitkat
    captain_slog wrote:
    Best to avoid any possibility of misinterpretation.

    Is this the point in society we’ve reached? Anything said can be misconstrued,  branded insulting and people offended. 

    Best just not to say anything to anyone for fear of giving them PTSD

    January 21, 2018 at 7:04 pm #910465
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    bigshape

    some ladies on horseback said
    some ladies on horseback said it to me the other weekend so certainly not exclusive to female riders!

    January 21, 2018 at 6:18 pm #910463
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    captain_slog

    Quote:

    ’keep pedalling, nearly there'

    I think it depends entirely on the tone. It could be said in a superior way or gasped out in the cause of mutual encouragement. From the rest of what she says, it sounds like the recipient inferred the former.

    Best to avoid any possibility of misinterpretation.

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