Drafting complete strangers

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    LastBoyScout

    Out for a solo ride yesterday, minding my own business, when I look behind to see a complete stranger sat on my back wheel.

    When asked what he was doing, I get the reply “Getting a tow – I’ve been chasing you for ages”

    When asked to stop and either pass me or back off, he got really shirty and then disappeared.

    Happens nearly every time I go out and pisses me off no end – I’m out for my enjoyment, not theirs and, having had a complete stranger crash into the back of me before, it makes me pretty nervous.

    Chase me down as a challenge, by all means – I do the same to other riders – but he doesn’t know me and has no idea where I’m going, so why would you then sit 3″ from someone elses wheel – especially without at least the courtesy of announcing your presence and asking if I mind?

    Seriously considering getting a “no drafting” sign for the back of my saddle!

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  • #893153
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    simonmb

    ChrisB200SX wrote:

    ChrisB200SX wrote:
     All that said, I’ll happily sit behind a bus or van all the way up a hill 🙂

     

     there speaks a true cyclist. It’s all about conserving energy.

    #893151
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    ChrisB200SX

    Yeah, bit rude/weird to

    Yeah, bit rude/weird to tailgate someone and not even say hello. Especially if you don’t know their skill level, could easily rear end you with a disk brake?

    It’s never happened to me but I think I’ve only ever been overtaken once (I was work clothes with big rucksack etc), I added him after checking the flyby on Strava and it turns out he’s rather good.
    If I’m not sure the person I’ve caught is slower than me I’ll sit a few metres (maybe 5?) back to assess the situation for a few seconds… no point going for an overtake if it’s marginal and you can’t make it stick, they just end up on your wheel, or worse, you blow up and then they end up in front again anyway.

    This has served me well, I’ve never overtaken someone who could keep up, pretty sure I’ve never not overtaken someone either though… I only really do short rides.

    I was coming home from the pub one night and ended up following a guy up the hill past Reading Hospital, realised halfway up that he was out of the saddle because it was a singlespeed, chatted a bit and then pushed on up the next hill, he really appreciated the tow but I rather regretted the extra effort while wearing my cheap waterproof jacket, my lungs don’t seem to work after beer.

    All that said, I’ll happily sit behind a bus or van all the way up a hill 🙂

    #893149
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    Grahamd
    peted76 wrote:
    I was once in the situation of bonking and then sitting on two complete strangers wheels for about four miles until the end of a sportive, whilst feeling terriblly guilty, but unable talk more than a whisper never mind to do a turn’. I like to think that they noticed the ashen look on my face and the trail of sick I’d left down my left arm, however I suspect they just think I was some sort of arse for wheelsucking and not being very friendly. That was about 2/3years ago.. I still feel the guilt. 

    I am sure there must be RC Reverend on the forum who will read your confesssion and absolve you of your sin so that you can let this go and move on.

    #893147
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    Carton

    The response on this page has

    The response on this page has been quite opposite to my experience on the roads. Most people I’ve encoutnered don’t mind it, so most riders act as if it’s not an issue. In fact, some of us even feel flattered to be drafted, no matter who happens to find their way onto our back wheels. Once, I was about to embark on hill repeats, when an eighty-something-year-old grabbed onto my wheel while I was warming up. I took pains to give him an even tempo all the way up a climb, and cheered him on upon cresting the hill. His smile was more than enough of a reward. If I feel someone is too close to my wheel, I will usually say as much. I have never gotten an ill-tempered reply to such a request.

    This haphazard approach can take its toll on the painfully shy and the misanthropes, but as many have written there are many ways they can express their displeasure if simply stating it is far too arduous an undertaking. But my apologies to those who think their sub-textual recriminations are being left deliberately unheeded. I, and I’m sure the rest of us, really mean no harm.
     

    #893145
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    Welsh boy

    How about getting over your

    How about getting over your superior attitude and chilling out a bit?  What harm is it if someone sits behind you for a few miles, it isnt preventing you from doing your own thing.  One day (yes, it will happen) you will be older/slower/both and may benefit from a wheel off a stranger.  Oh, by the way, a bit of basic grammar for you, it is “…to see a complete stranger sitting on my wheel”, not sat.

    #893143
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    vonhelmet

    I commute on a single speed

    I commute on a single speed bike.  It’s quite routine that I’ll be quick enough to draft someone and attempt an overtake, but can’t then open a gap once they’re behind me.  That’s always embarrassing.

    #893141
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    Anonymous

    i don’t think I’ve ever being

    i don’t think I’ve ever being drafted by a stranger but then I don’t tend to ride the same time most do or simply my routes are not oft frequented by people on bikes or just going in the opposite direction. the odd occasion someone has come past (I rarely catch anyone these days) it’s as a straight pass and a brief ackowledgement.

    Would I like to be drafted, no i wouldn’t.

    Similar to above, I don’t know your riding style, what your hazard perception/road reading is like nor your competency, likewise you to me. Either come past or stay back a few yards, if you’ve had enough energy/pace to catch me then you’ve enough energy to come around and pass,  don’t then slow up  so I have to make adjustments to my pace/line because you’ve blown up catching me in the first place. I’m not in a race and nor are you so don’t treat an open road casual leisure ride as such.

    this should be the same process when in a motorvehicle, if you’ve had you foot down to catch up/generally going at a faster speed (even if that is above the limit) then have the common courtesy to stay back a safe distance and not be on my tail. When a safe overtaking point becomes apparent, do so in a positive manner using the opposite lane accelerating into the gap you left behind me and when pulling in wait until you are well past so as not to disrupt my progression/safety and continue so that I don’t have to modify what I am doing to take account of your fookwittery.

    That way we are both safe as is oncoming traffic and no-one is antagonised, unless you’re an impatient/unsafe twat who likes to draft/tailgate people you don’t know and overtake in an unsafe manner in which case you might get your lights put out at some juncture by someone more impatient/dangerous than you.

    #893139
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    listerine

    My ride on Saturday

    My ride on Saturday shared most of the route of the  London Revolution sportive. 

    I had a group of ten riders string out behind me for about ten miles. One puncheur then thanked me, and offered to take the lead for a while. Up a steep hill. Thanks mate.

     I was also the victim of two ninja drafters. You know, the sort who sneak up behind you, unnoticed. Until, of course, you brake for whatever reason. One started swearing when I stopped to let a driver get through a pinch point. The other did what sounded like a particularly ninja-esque somersault after I slowed to grab a drink, and his wheel clipped mine.

    Strangers drafting me? I’m not a fan.

     

     

    #893137
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    Kapelmuur

    As I’m approaching 70 and am

    As I’m approaching 70 and am delighted if I can average 15mph on my 2 hour rides I’d be highly flattered if someone drafted me.

    Provided they were under 65, of course. 

     

    #893135
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    JohnnyRemo

    Ease up, – say “Hello!” – sit

    Ease up, – say “Hello!” – sit beside him/her – have a chat – once you figure out you’re stronger, get the half-wheel up and hammer them into the ground…  angel

    #893133
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    Mungecrundle

    I asked for a tow from 2
    I asked for a tow from 2 strangers that went past me yesterday as I had dropped from my group due to traffic. Considering I was on my mtb complete with knobblies they were very gracious in allowing me to tag on and catch up.

    If it is me doing the chasing and assuming I can catch, then I always ask if it’s OK to ride with them for a bit while I get my breath back. You meet all kinds of people on bicycles and some who look slow are doing 100 mile plus rides whilst I’m out for a paltry 2 hours.

    Would seem rude to just invade someone’s space without asking and some riders are nervous to be in close formation with other cyclists.

    #893131
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    simonmb

    If I’m out for a solo ride, I

    If I’m out for a solo ride, I’m out for a solo ride and that’s that. I’ll let anyone sit on my wheel for a bit – but after that I’ll drop back, have a genuinely friendly chat, and then let them know I’m on my way again. Easy.

    #893129
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    londoncommute

    It really winds me up to.  A

    It really winds me up to.  A few snowy months ago I was out on a horrendously slippy ride on my gritting route when the only other person riding in Kent decides to starts drafting me.  Bad enough thinking you’ve got to be stupidly careful without someone you don’t know right behind you.

    I think it’s context, if someone latches onto your small group then that’s fine but you’re out for a solo ride for a reason.

    As for sitting on your wheel when commuting….  

    #893127
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    peted76

    I was once in the situation

    I was once in the situation of bonking and then sitting on two complete strangers wheels for about four miles until the end of a sportive, whilst feeling terriblly guilty, but unable talk more than a whisper never mind to do a turn’. I like to think that they noticed the ashen look on my face and the trail of sick I’d left down my left arm, however I suspect they just think I was some sort of arse for wheelsucking and not being very friendly. That was about 2/3years ago.. I still feel the guilt. 

    In a situation where this has happened as you describe on a weekend rideout, I’d have just let them sit on to catch their breath, then simply flicked my elbow and peeled off to let them through. Surely that would have been the sensible response? 

    I note that you only knew they were there when they were on your back wheel, I have issue with this. To my mind you ‘should’ have been aware that there was a cyclist behind you well in advance of that, I’d say you’re being a bit grumpy about him sitting there, (how long was he there I wonder, how long had he been trying to chase you down) I’d call you out for not being aware of his presence well before he reached your back wheel.

     

    #893125
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    Anonymous

    I’m with the OP, it does my
    I’m with the OP, it does my head in!
    A) it always seems to go on when I’m just riding home, processing the day.
    B) They never bother to intro or ask, just sit there never doing a pull.
    C) if they eventually do a turn, they’re always flobbing and you get spittle spray. Rank.
    D) IT’S JUST FKN WEIRD! gives me the creeps.
    Leave me alone!

    (But then I am a miserable sod)

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