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Shimano R500 – Wheelset upgrade

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  • March 9, 2017 at 5:54 pm #26870
    Gowardo

    Hey all,

     

    This is my first post here so please be gentle on me 🙂 I was hoping someone could give me some advice on a wheelset. I ride a cannondale supersix evo which comes with stock shimano R500 wheels.

     

    These have served me well for the last couple of years, but now have a couple of dents and I would like to upgrade them. I have received a free pair of wheels, Shimano RS 330, but I know zero/nada/zip about wheels and google hasn’t been able to convince me if these are even better than my current wheels.

    So my question to you is, are they worth the upgrade? If not, I could return them and spend up to £200 on wheels somewhere else.

     

    Any advice, highly appreciated!

     

    Thanks!

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  • March 12, 2017 at 11:52 pm #888661
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    Gowardo
    Nat Jas Moe wrote:
    De Ver Cycles in (Streatham / Norbury) London. I have used them in the past and its £50 plus parts, if I remember correctly. Found them good at what they do. 

     

    Ha. That’s funny I cycle past that shop every morning! Thanks 🙂

     

    March 12, 2017 at 7:35 pm #888659
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    Nat Jas Moe

    De Ver Cycles in (Streatham /

    De Ver Cycles in (Streatham / Norbury) London. I have used them in the past and its £50 plus parts, if I remember correctly. Found them good at what they do. 

    March 12, 2017 at 1:08 pm #888657
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    FMOAB wrote:
    Do yourself a favour and talk to a local wheelbuilder.  They could sort you out with something nice that won’t necessarily break the bank. Kinlin for example do some great rims like the xr300.  £100 a pair, 105 hubs and builders costs would take you to around £200.  Wrong, light and when required, every element can be replaced.

     

    Thanks for that. Does anyone know any wbeelbuikders they’ve used before based in and around London, UK?

     

    G

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    March 12, 2017 at 1:07 pm #888655
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    harman_mogul wrote:
    The SuperSix Evo is such a nice frame that it really is worth going to the Shimano RS81 wheelset.  You will notice the difference!

     

    Thanks harman that’s what I’m thinking…. About the rs81s, what depth profile would you go for? On a sportive / summer bike? 

     

    I think they go as high as 50mm, but in all honesty I’m not sure 25mm in depth is going to make such a huge difference? It’s nearly £300 price difference. The looks do certainly improve with more aero profiles of course.

     

    G

    March 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm #888653
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    FMOAB

    Do yourself a favour and talk

    Do yourself a favour and talk to a local wheelbuilder.  They could sort you out with something nice that won’t necessarily break the bank. Kinlin for example do some great rims like the xr300.  £100 a pair, 105 hubs and builders costs would take you to around £200.  Wrong, light and when required, every element can be replaced.

    March 12, 2017 at 12:55 pm #888651
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    harman_mogul

    The SuperSix Evo is such a

    The SuperSix Evo is such a nice frame that it really is worth going to the Shimano RS81 wheelset.  You will notice the difference!

    March 12, 2017 at 9:57 am #888649
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    Gowardo wrote:
    That’s exactly my issue. I think there’s a good chance I’ll continue to run my r500s into the ground until I:

     

    a) break them

    b) find a pair of wheels that I absolutely love for a reasonable amount of money, which is highly unlikely!

     

    G

    I’d agree. RS330 isn’t that much different to R500. I can recommend the Shimano 6800 Ultegra wheels if you want to go tubeless, but they’re not particularly light. If you shop around you can pick up a pair quite cheaply.

    In my opinion, wheels are a very expensive way of reducing weight. Once you start spending over a few hundred pounds, you get diminishing returns for your cash (although expensive wheels do look great).

    March 10, 2017 at 2:52 pm #888647
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    SingleSpeed wrote:
    34.67kmh 

     

    That’s a bit vague.

    March 10, 2017 at 2:51 pm #888645
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    Gowardo

    That’s exactly my issue. I

    That’s exactly my issue. I think there’s a good chance I’ll continue to run my r500s into the ground until I:

     

    a) break them

    b) find a pair of wheels that I absolutely love for a reasonable amount of money, which is highly unlikely!

     

    G

    March 10, 2017 at 2:35 pm #888643
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    SingleSpeed

    34.67kmh 

     

    34.67kmh 

     

    March 10, 2017 at 2:26 pm #888641
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    Anonymous

    I have r500s on at the moment

    I have r500s on at the moment. How fast do you have to be going before ‘better’ rims start to show their qualities? On face value seems like you’re paying a lot of money to drop 300g.

    March 10, 2017 at 2:15 pm #888639
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    Simon E

    Planet X are selling the

    Planet X are selling the RS330s at £119.

    They’re unlikely to be much of an upgrade of the R500s, any supposed aero gains will be undetectable in the real world.

    I’d recommend that you carry on using your R500s and save up for a properly nice wheelset. Hunt seem to get a lot of love on here.

    March 10, 2017 at 12:21 pm #888637
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    CXR94Di2

    Tubular with a little sealant
    Tubular with a little sealant great combo

    March 10, 2017 at 11:31 am #888635
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    Gowardo
    SingleSpeed wrote:
    Gowardo wrote:
    CXR94Di2 wrote:
    Gowardo wrote:

    Ok thanks – RS330 it is. I am just a bit concerned as they are more expensive then my R500 set, they look nicer and they seem of a good build when I inspect them (with my limited knowledge), but then I see they are nearly 190g heavier.  I thought better wheels were meant to be lighter!

    Stronger wheels are heavier, lightweight for very long climbs, but you won’t really notice. Put on some decent tubeless tyres and enjoy lovely ride.

     

    Thank you sir 🙂 I thought tubeless tyres were unadvisable if you’re not on track? (probably a really stupid comment, sorry if so :P)

     

    Tubeless is a system like on your car where no inner tube is required, and the tyre sits on the rim under pressure, a small amount of latex goes into the tyre which helps seal the tyre in the advent of a puncture.

     

    Tubular is a system in which an inner tube is sewn into the carcass of a tyre and then glued onto the rim. (you can get far lighter wheels from tubular as the rim doesn’t have to deal with the forces of a tyre pushing out at around 120psi. If you punture a tubular tyre then your only hope is that you have a Team car following you, a long taxi home or the inconvenience of carrying around a spare tyre and rim tape. Hence, apart from the sunniest of sunny day bike rides most people don’t rides Tubular or Tubs as they are most commonly known.

    Hope that helps

     

     

    thanks it does – very kind 🙂

    March 10, 2017 at 8:41 am #888633
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    Gowardo wrote:
    CXR94Di2 wrote:
    Gowardo wrote:

    Ok thanks – RS330 it is. I am just a bit concerned as they are more expensive then my R500 set, they look nicer and they seem of a good build when I inspect them (with my limited knowledge), but then I see they are nearly 190g heavier.  I thought better wheels were meant to be lighter!

    Stronger wheels are heavier, lightweight for very long climbs, but you won’t really notice. Put on some decent tubeless tyres and enjoy lovely ride.

     

    Thank you sir 🙂 I thought tubeless tyres were unadvisable if you’re not on track? (probably a really stupid comment, sorry if so :P)

     

    Tubeless is a system like on your car where no inner tube is required, and the tyre sits on the rim under pressure, a small amount of latex goes into the tyre which helps seal the tyre in the advent of a puncture.

     

    Tubular is a system in which an inner tube is sewn into the carcass of a tyre and then glued onto the rim. (you can get far lighter wheels from tubular as the rim doesn’t have to deal with the forces of a tyre pushing out at around 120psi. If you punture a tubular tyre then your only hope is that you have a Team car following you, a long taxi home or the inconvenience of carrying around a spare tyre and rim tape. Hence, apart from the sunniest of sunny day bike rides most people don’t rides Tubular or Tubs as they are most commonly known.

    Hope that helps

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