Hate crime against cyclist and neigbours

@ SuperPython59 

@ SuperPython59 

You’re equating rape with antisocial/dangerous driving? Do you think that’s an appropriate analogy you’ve used there? And you ask others to “get a fucking grip”.

Priceless.

Agreed it’s about Magnatom’s
Agreed it’s about Magnatom’s behaviour, not the cycle path.

As far as that behaviour goes, I wouldn’t do it, and I’m sure I shrug my shoulders or give a hand gesture over similar driver acts that end up ranted about on his feed.

However…. I’m a bit torn on these cyclist feeds. How much ‘bloody cyclist’ attitude does it really harden? Alternatively, does it draw attention to aggressive moton behaviour; do feeds like this encourage angry cyclist blogs, Web posts and attendance at demonstrations? And how much have these things contributed to the infrastructure debate in London, the West Mids Police proclamations and the like?

Who knows, but I suspect some relationship between the latter. So while I can see Magnatom and his ilk as outlying nuisances, I’m inclined to applaud them as playing a necessary part in the battle to stop being squashed by motons in a society that has gradually embedded the car right up its own arse.

brooksby wrote:

beezus fufoon wrote:

Fifth Gear wrote:

Your ad hominem attacks are extremely distasteful.

criticising someone’s behaviour as self-righteous does not constitute an ad hominem attack

Willo – is that you??

No, just someone who knows what ad-hom means :p

Fifth Gear wrote:

Your ad hominem attacks are extremely distasteful.

criticising someone’s behaviour as self-righteous does not constitute an ad hominem attack

HalfWheeler wrote:

I agree Flying Scot on this one.

I’ve always thought Magnatom’s ‘efforts’ were counterproductive. From internet ‘debates’ with him in the past I get the impression he thinks that, in the long run, the majority of bad drivers’ behaviour will change because of his videoing and he’ll be responsible for it. There’s an element of delusion in this.  75% of the population hold driving liceneces. For the Greater Glasgow area that’s 900,000. Lets say 5% are close passers or aggressive drivers in other ways. That’s 45,000 anti-social and dangerous drivers. Is he going to video and prosecute them all one by one?

There’s also a whiff of self-important, self-appointed sanctimony about it as well. Although you can’t level those charges at him. He’s deep in bunker mentality and he’s not coming out. When challenged about his m.o he’s responded with “well, what have you ever acheived by cycling”. So you have to achieve some sort of ethical or moral objective by going out on your bike now? Pompous twaddle.

Flying Scot is also correct about the local roadies attitude to him; ambivalent at best but more often than not highly critical. They think he’s a liability. 

None of this excuses the abuse/attacks on his person, property and now neighbours. This is how public debate is now carried out. It doesn’t bode well for the future.

It is hard to understand why you think highlighting bad driving using a cycle camera is ‘counterproductive’. It is merely clear and objective evidence of the problems vulnerable road users are forced to endure when sharing the road with bad drivers. The object of this evidence is to attempt to ensure the police take action and that the authorities understand the urgent need for safe and convenient cycling infrastructure. The situation at the moment means that most people are too scared to cycle resulting in over-reliance on motor vehicles, which is a problem for everyone. Your ad hominem attacks are extremely distasteful.

Flying Scot wrote:

I doubt this has anything to do with the Bearsway project (in East Dunbartonshire) which is mainly opposed by middle class NIMBY types, its a project that I am neutral on, as one, I don’t use it, and secondly as with most of greater glasgow cycle infrastructure, its discontinuous.

Far more likely to be as the letter infers (yet another) reaction to  several years of sanctimonious noising up Neanderthal drivers, which, for 9 times out of 10 is for nothing, or simple mistakes.

Feel free to flame me for the next bit, and don’t confuse the comments with as victim blaming, read it to the end.

This guy is not popular among the road going cycling  community in the Glasgow area either though, he has raised his profile so high with self publicity that he basically single handedly created the ‘bloody cyclists’ mentality in the area that affects all of us on the road as now all the nutters in motor vehicles see a them and us situation.

I do however fully condemn any one making these threats, he may at times deserve some verbal out on the road (as he meters out himself) when he over reacts, but no one deserves such threats against home, family or neighbours and against this, he has my full support and i hope the polis fully investigate and find the idiot responsible and that appropriate sentencing is applied and not a slap on the wrist.

If I recall too he already has had a brick through his window, which must be awful for the family.

I have seen his videos and the suggestion that they are for “nothing” or ‘simple mistakes’ is patently ridiculous. The ‘bloody cyclists mentality’ is endemic in our very motor-biased society and to blame a victim of it as being responsible for it is victim-blaming of the first order. 

I agree Flying Scot on this

I agree Flying Scot on this one.

I’ve always thought Magnatom’s ‘efforts’ were counterproductive. From internet ‘debates’ with him in the past I get the impression he thinks that, in the long run, the majority of bad drivers’ behaviour will change because of his videoing and he’ll be responsible for it. There’s an element of delusion in this.  75% of the population hold driving liceneces. For the Greater Glasgow area that’s 900,000. Lets say 5% are close passers or aggressive drivers in other ways. That’s 45,000 anti-social and dangerous drivers. Is he going to video and prosecute them all one by one?

There’s also a whiff of self-important, self-appointed sanctimony about it as well. Although you can’t level those charges at him. He’s deep in bunker mentality and he’s not coming out. When challenged about his m.o he’s responded with “well, what have you ever acheived by cycling”. So you have to achieve some sort of ethical or moral objective by going out on your bike now? Pompous twaddle.

Flying Scot is also correct about the local roadies attitude to him; ambivalent at best but more often than not highly critical. They think he’s a liability. 

None of this excuses the abuse/attacks on his person, property and now neighbours. This is how public debate is now carried out. It doesn’t bode well for the future.

Appalling, I hope the police

Appalling, I hope the police catch the offfender and that his threats cause him to put away for a long long time