petition to PM

Alfa a wrote:

This is mostly your everyday commuter/drunk doing this and I haven’t seen any ‘proper’ cyclists doing it …

Look – we’re all just folks, OK.   I’m a commuter not a roadie, and I seriously resent the implication that I’m not a ‘proper’ cyclist 

Alfa a wrote:

Alfa a wrote:

I live in Cambridge and there is a major problem with ‘cyclists’ not understanding that the rules of the road apply to them.  This is mostly your everyday commuter/drunk doing this and I haven’t seen any ‘proper’ cyclists doing it but it is a major annoyance and very dangerous.  I have had cyclists crash into my car when they have run red lights and a friend of mine was crossing a zebra crossing and got wiped out by a guy cycling on his phone…  This petition is way over the top but I do think that police need to be more vigilent in regards to ‘cyclists’ road use.

I don’t even agree with that (more moderate) idea. In an ideal world I’d be fine with it, but in this world the police have limited resources, and its a matter of priorities.

As a pedestrian I can handle irritating scrotes riding on the pavement or ignoring zebras. Mostly they are just arrogant youths (who can’t be that brave or they’d be on the road). I find just refusing to get out of the way or glaring at them is enough to make the point (one day I might encounter one who is carrying a knife and come to regret it, of course).

What I would rather the police do something about are all the motorists who also ignore zebra crossings and even light-controlled ones. Those guys I can’t handle on my own, both because they are in fast-moving armoured boxes and can’t even hear me shouting at them, and because they tend to be older and significantly harder-looking than their younger siblings on bikes!

Seriously, many drivers seem to have entirely forgotten what zebra crossings are. Not only do they not stop when you are clearly waiting to cross, but they really don’t like it if you force them to do so by actually stepping out (which, weirdly, is what legally you are supposed to do). I’ve had them shout abuse at me for it. And several times I’ve had one only just stop in time and then noticed they were busy texting with a phone in their lap.

Drivers pay little more attention to red lights at crossings than do cyclists.

What gets me… is that you

What gets me… is that you can provide a sound argument in response to this proposals and its supporting comments, and people just completely ignore it.

Is this what Post truth society looks like? With facts often so immediately available, people now ignore any and all arguments apart from the angle of truth  they want to hear… 

“Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story?”

“No one wants to listen to the opinions of experts anymore…”

Etc etc etc…

I did like one comment on the petition that was saying yes, lets get this discussed and dismiss this road tax bullshit once and for all. 

Does the (M9) mean he is Male

Does the (M9) mean he is Male, age 9? Certainly reads as if written by a child.

Also worrying that nearly 15,000 people have already signed the petition despite all the inaccuracies in it.

But, what about the attached photo?! Bike jumping the red light, car in the ASL box….