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  • September 15, 2016 at 8:39 pm #26281
    David9694

    The tragic stories behind using a mobile phone at the wheel   http://www.itv.com/news/2016-09-15/mobile-phone-driving-deaths/

    Interesting news story here arising fromthe RAC survey of motorists.

    The one time I yelled at a car in a traffic jam GET OFF YOUR PHONE! I got a load of abuse intermingled with excuses – so at least he admitted it.   

    It took years and I daresay a lot of tragedies to change attitudes to drinking and driving, so we have to start somewhere, unless the Google (etc) driverless car is going to save us.

    Some of the drivers in the ITV story aren’t content with just talking either: nice.

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  • September 18, 2016 at 4:56 pm #878309
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    A V Lowe

    There are just 3 permitted

    There are just 3 permitted uses of a screen viewed when driving

    1) as an alternative to a mirror

    2) as an alternative to conventional instrumentation

    3) to monitor a load of other detail on the vehicle which is necessary whilst moving (eg livestock)

    This apparently does not include a satnav map, but I’ve asked DfT to clarify this.

    That noted I’d also note that many driver are placing themselves open to further prosecution when putting the satnav unit on the dashboard on a mount that puts it in the windscreen ‘zone’ as the law requires a minimum area of windscreen to be clear of any labelling, or accessories/devices – put a satnav there and you’re nabbed.

     

    September 17, 2016 at 5:43 pm #878307
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    fenix

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

    I have to say, as much as the stats look terrible, I don’t think its as bleak a picture as painted.

    If I was asked the same questions, I’d have had to answer yes as well. Doesn’t mean I’ve used a mobile in a car for a long period of time… i.e. habits have changed… nor does it take into account that someone might send a rare text when stuck in stationary traffic, or take a call on a deserted motorway… which means they are an offender… but not a regular abuser.

    Not saying its right, but just differentiating between caning your phone whilst driving, and being a rare as hen’s teeth, occasional reader of a text. 

    What scare me a bit, is the definition of using a mobile. I will use my mobile as a GPS system (mounted on the dashboard), just like you’d use a garmin or tom tom. Officially I could be held accountable as a mobile user… 

    Very fair comment. Sadly, we all criticise others for using mobile in the car, but few of us are totally without sin!

     

    You mean you do use your mobile in the car.  If you’re sad about it – just don’t bloody do it !

    Put the phone on airplane. Don’t get it out. Simple.

     

    My employer now tells us not to use cars in phones – not even hands free. If we call someone – external or internal and they’re driving – we can’t continue the conversation. I hope more companies will follow. 

    September 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm #878305
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    racingcondor

    There was an excellent
    There was an excellent response from the Police on the news I saw which was essentially double it if you like, until we have the resources to actually do anything about it it’s not going to make a difference.

    This is clearly a case of politicians writing a vote gaining headline knowing that the law change will make bugger all difference.

    September 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm #878303
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    Ratfink

    I saw a guy doing a three
    I saw a guy doing a three point turn whilst texting last week.
    I’ve mused previously that there should be some kind of app that if you can get a picture of someone doing such a thing and they get prosecuted you get a fiver from the fine.

    September 17, 2016 at 4:25 pm #878301
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    drosco

    I commute by bike and see it
    I commute by bike and see it every single day. I still don’t know a single person who’s been stopped however. What point doubling the points when nobody gets prosecuted?

    September 17, 2016 at 10:16 am #878299
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    WiznaeMe

    This morning’s news is that

    This morning’s news is that penalty points have to double, to six, and a second offence will incur a disqualification.  Be interesting to see how many tickets are issued in the next year or two.  

     

    September 16, 2016 at 9:13 pm #878297
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    Simon E

    Griff500]

    Jimmy Ray</strong></p> <p>[quote=Griff500 wrote:
    Sadly, we all criticise others for using mobile in the car, but few of us are totally without sin!

    It’s easy – just leave the f**king thing alone while you’re driving! Put it in a bag in the boot.

    No call, text or tweet is that important.

    September 16, 2016 at 9:00 pm #878295
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    Griff500

    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

    I have to say, as much as the stats look terrible, I don’t think its as bleak a picture as painted.

    If I was asked the same questions, I’d have had to answer yes as well. Doesn’t mean I’ve used a mobile in a car for a long period of time… i.e. habits have changed… nor does it take into account that someone might send a rare text when stuck in stationary traffic, or take a call on a deserted motorway… which means they are an offender… but not a regular abuser.

    Not saying its right, but just differentiating between caning your phone whilst driving, and being a rare as hen’s teeth, occasional reader of a text. 

    What scare me a bit, is the definition of using a mobile. I will use my mobile as a GPS system (mounted on the dashboard), just like you’d use a garmin or tom tom. Officially I could be held accountable as a mobile user… 

    Very fair comment. Sadly, we all criticise others for using mobile in the car, but few of us are totally without sin!

    September 16, 2016 at 8:31 pm #878293
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    Roadie_john
    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:
    What scare me a bit, is the definition of using a mobile. I will use my mobile as a GPS system (mounted on the dashboard), just like you’d use a garmin or tom tom. Officially I could be held accountable as a mobile user… 

     

    that would depend if you were using it as a sat nav or to check your twitter…

    September 16, 2016 at 3:31 pm #878291
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    Jimmy Ray Will

    I have to say, as much as the

    I have to say, as much as the stats look terrible, I don’t think its as bleak a picture as painted.

    If I was asked the same questions, I’d have had to answer yes as well. Doesn’t mean I’ve used a mobile in a car for a long period of time… i.e. habits have changed… nor does it take into account that someone might send a rare text when stuck in stationary traffic, or take a call on a deserted motorway… which means they are an offender… but not a regular abuser.

    Not saying its right, but just differentiating between caning your phone whilst driving, and being a rare as hen’s teeth, occasional reader of a text. 

    What scare me a bit, is the definition of using a mobile. I will use my mobile as a GPS system (mounted on the dashboard), just like you’d use a garmin or tom tom. Officially I could be held accountable as a mobile user… 

    September 16, 2016 at 8:12 am #878289
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    brooksby

    I remember waiting behind a

    I remember waiting behind a car in a traffic queue for lights, and the driver was reading  an iPad on their lap.  The lights changed, everyone moved forward except them, then they suddenly realised, flung the tablet into the passenger seat and roared forward in the wrong gear just in time to miss the lights again  yes

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