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Road etiquette (parked cars)

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  • July 24, 2016 at 12:15 pm #26053
    Spofferoonie

    So, out on the ride today and coming down a descent at 30mph or so with parked cars on the opposite side of the road, with that side having a car that had just started to go round them. I’m 100% certain you can fit a car and a bike but he can pull over as the obstructions are on his side as far as I’m concerned.

    As the car gets closer, the driver sticks his arm out of the window to do God knows what (stop me, push me off, no idea) and shouts at me that I’m an idiot because he’d already started on his side of the road.

    Now, as far as I’m concerned, the obstructions are on his side of the road so it’s my right of way, am I wrong?

    We’ll ignore the fact that he then turned his car round and came after me, slowing up in front of me and then driving alongside me as I tried to overtake him (so keeping me on the wrong side of the road). I eventually stopped behind him, was joined by a sympathetic dog walker, let him mouth off at me and then carried on (slightly worried as he pulled another U-turn and shouted at me once for luck).

    Anyway, who’s the idiot, me or him?

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  • July 24, 2016 at 2:10 pm #875419
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    700c

    Driver in the wrong. Your
    Driver in the wrong. Your right of way. Doesn’t sound like you were in a position to give way at the start of the obstruction anyway and he should have taken that into account and not overtaken, or stopped immediately.

    That’s even before he started to act dangerously and aggressively, succuming to road rage, by the sounds of it.

    July 24, 2016 at 2:08 pm #875417
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    vonhelmet

    Very hard to say for sure who

    Very hard to say for sure who should have done what without knowing the timings or who started passing the cars when. You tell it like you were already passing them when he started; I imagine he might say otherwise.

    July 24, 2016 at 1:34 pm #875415
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    stomec

    Rule 155 of highway code –

    Rule 155 of highway code – give way to vehicles coming uphill whenever you can.  I think most drivers feel this consideration overrides which side of the road the obstruction is on – I do when I’m descending in the car and would generally give way if I was driving in the situation you describe – if I could stop safely. Of course at 30mph on a downhill on a bike  it may not have been possible for you to stop safely. 

     

    And of course his behaviour was completely out if order subsequently. 

     

     

    July 24, 2016 at 1:06 pm #875413
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    Leviathan
    unconstituted wrote:
    He has to judge when it’s clear to begin to move. He does that by judging distance and speed of oncoming traffic. What he did here was judge that you should give him right of way.

    In my experience most motorists do look but don’t look for long enough. They look for one beat and register “cyclist/distance” and that is it; they don’t look for two beats to judge your speed. I have had plenty of occasions when I am riding along, fast than a granny and someone pulls out in front of me slowly. I get baulked, but not crashed into when they wouldn’t have pulled out in front of a car.

    This guy saw you, started a move then realized you were coming faster than he though so expressed his surprise/fear/embarrassment. If you haven’t changed your speed or swung across the road towards him then you’ve done nothing wrong.

    July 24, 2016 at 12:46 pm #875411
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    tritecommentbot

    He has to judge when it’s

    He has to judge when it’s clear to begin to move. He does that by judging distance and speed of oncoming traffic. What he did here was judge that you should give him right of way.

    Basically a twat with a hardon for cyclists hence the arm out of window weirdness.

     

    To be honest though, it sounds to me like you need to improve your riding skills. A skilled rider can spot a potential antagonist with his window down and react fast enough to grab bidon and spray the douche enlightened

    July 24, 2016 at 12:46 pm #875409
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    vonhelmet

    If he’d already started

    If he’d already started coming past the cars, you should have waited for him. Sorry!

    July 24, 2016 at 12:31 pm #875407
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    CXR94Di2

    If the opposite side has the
    If the opposite side has the obstruction, the vehicles/ cyclist should wait. Unless they have already began the manoeuvre then the free side should wait-common courtesy.

    Of there was room for both vehicles to pass them can do so with care.

    Sounds like someone trying to rule the road. I had a fella drive along side of me and a pal to complain I was riding 2 abreast. I explained he should read the highway code

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