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September 7, 2015 at 9:03 am #24754
Roland
Hi all,
I’m starting to use tubs for normal club riding in dry weather. My question is what should I carry in case of a puncture? I assume for quickness I should take a spare pre-stretched tub and a tube of glue? What do those who use tubs think?
I’m using Vittoria Pave tyres which are fairly tough.
Thanks,
Roland
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I only ride tubs. The
I only ride tubs. The quality of tubs is really great these days and if you ride 24-25mm wide ones, the chance they get punctured is really low. I always carry a tool bottle with a used spare tub, a spare valve extension (just in case you run deep sections), a co2 cartridge and self adhesive patches. Carrying a Vittoria Pitstop can gives me the extra confindence on ultra-long rides. Perhaps a tip when using the Pitstop foam: you have to hold it upright, when the foam exits the hole, turn the wheel until the hole is facing the road and keep it that way for some time. For bigger punctures, you can even use a self adhesive patch before filling in the foam.
Flying Scot
I run mine with caffe latex
I run mine with caffe latex sealant in them.Very few issues.
I also carry on old, glued, stretched tub as a spare, with a tube of glue, a quick smear reactivates the old cement on the tub and rim.
edster99
I only use tubs. Spare,
I only use tubs. Spare, glued tub in my back pocket, plus a tiny tube of sealant for emergencies. I have had bad experiences with Pitstop.Go for it!
kev-s
Some people don’t seem to
Some people don’t seem to have much luck with pitstop but others like me have never had any troubleIn fact the only time it hasn’t worked is when i forgot to take it with me! (hence the 15 mile ride with two flat tubs)
I don’t think the can is bulky, quite slim compared to other sealants that you use once you have flatted, plus its also a c02 inflater so no need to carry a c02 canisters
One thing to remember with sealants that stay as a liquid fluid inside the tub (pitstop is more of a foam) is you can feel the sealant rushing round the tub when you spin the wheel (had this with specialized air lock sealant) and it unbalances the wheel somewhat
fukawitribe
700c wrote:PS there’s a
[quote=700c]PS there’s a really good test of preventative sealants here – some of them are VERY effective: http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Things_that_Roll/Tires/Sealant_Test_-_Part_2_4155.html%5B/quote%5DThanks for the link – very interesting. I’ve been using Stans in the past but will definitely give the Bontrager TLR stuff a go in future and might even try a bit in the clinchers.
700c
fukawitribe wrote: The other
fukawitribe wrote:The other way to do it is to only use sealant in the event of a puncture (seal, re-inflate) although clearly the end result is the same and personally I can’t see a huge amount of benefit.That’s what I do – sealant in the event of emergencies only.. no rational explanation for it though
Surprised by the support for Vittoria Pitstop, above – perhaps I’ve just been unlucky but it’s always ended with a flat tyre and a mess everywhere, not to mention a bulky can that then needs to be put in the bin!
PS there’s a really good test of preventative sealants here – some of them are VERY effective: http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Things_that_Roll/Tires/Sealant_Test_-_Part_2_4155.html
fukawitribe
surly_by_name wrote:Just to
surly_by_name wrote:Just to complicate things – http://www.velominati.com/musings-from-the-v-bunker/in-praise-of-sealant/ argues for use of sealant in tubs. I am not sure I think this is a good idea. If you have latex tubes, the wrong sealant will cause them to perish.Well, choose the right sealant then 😉 Seriously, it’s not rocket science and it’s not like you have to continually do it.
surly_by_name wrote:Also, Pete Burgin (RIP) used to refuse to repair any tubs that had sealant in them. Not sure of Gary Brown’s attitude toward sealant.Each to their own, although seems un-necessarily draconian it’s their business. That said, part of the reasoning behind using sealant is to avoid sending them in for repair in the first place, so that may have a bearing on practicality. The other way to do it is to only use sealant in the event of a puncture (seal, re-inflate) although clearly the end result is the same and personally I can’t see a huge amount of benefit.
surly_by_name
Just to complicate things –
Just to complicate things – http://www.velominati.com/musings-from-the-v-bunker/in-praise-of-sealant/ argues for use of sealant in tubs. I am not sure I think this is a good idea. If you have latex tubes, the wrong sealant will cause them to perish. Also, Pete Burgin (RIP) used to refuse to repair any tubs that had sealant in them. Not sure of Gary Brown’s attitude toward sealant.2 Wheeled Idiot wrote:Surly
2 Wheeled Idiot wrote:Surly by nature too it seems… :/Sometimes, perhaps too often. Didn’t intend to cause offence, apologies. Merely intended to make the point that you don’t HAVE to do anything, but – as always – there are risks involved in not doing so. Given how easy it is to paint a couple of coats of tub glue on to the base tape of an old tub (then leaving to dry) before rolling it up, I don’t think its a risk worth taking.
Thanks all for the input,
Thanks all for the input, appreciated.Some great advice and so I’ll be going with an old pre-glued 21mm tub and a can of Tufo aerosol! I like the idea of tape but most riders still seem to favour glue so I’ll stick with that (no pun intended).
Assume I can pinch my gf’s nail varnish remover to clean the rims?
=P~
ianSWBB
The tufo extreme sealant is
The tufo extreme sealant is good – get a flat, take out the removable core with your little tool, squeeze in sealant, put core back in, inflate – 2 minutes later, good to go!Jharrison5
I’ve always used residual tub
I’ve always used residual tub tape/cement only and an easy ride home. A butylized tub rarely punctures though. Why use a pocket for it when you can go all 1950s on your riding mates?
2 Wheeled Idiot
surly_by_name wrote:2 Wheeled
surly_by_name wrote:2 Wheeled Idiot wrote:do you really need to pre glue the replacement tub…“Did he fire six shots or only five?” Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off, you’ve gotta ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well, do ya, punk?
Or: how much are your teeth worth?
Surly by nature too it seems (|:
I was asking a genuine question, obv I wouldn’t then rail it round corners or go fast but as a get home measure I was just asking… :/Roland wrote:Thanks for this.
Roland wrote:Thanks for this. If I pre-glue the spare though, won’t it stick to itself when I fold it up and tuck it in my jersey?Yes, it will and its supposed to do so. Apply glue to base tape and roll tub up (base tape to base tape). This will stop the glue getting contaminated – which will help it stick better.
If you get a puncture whilst riding tubs a spare tub will get you home but you wouldn’t want to corner at race speed.
Buy a second hand tub on ebay for your spare. Buy a 21, rolls up smaller.
2 Wheeled Idiot wrote:do you
2 Wheeled Idiot wrote:do you really need to pre glue the replacement tub…“Did he fire six shots or only five?” Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off, you’ve gotta ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well, do ya, punk?
Or: how much are your teeth worth?
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