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Budget Stupidity – I pay road tax

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  • July 8, 2015 at 12:14 pm #24394
    sam_smith

    Our beloved Chancellor has announced this little turd in the budget.

    “New VED tax for new cars from 2017. It will apply in three bands. It will be used to fund a roads fund from the end of the decade.” Source – The Guardian

    This roads fund will only increase motorists’ sense of self entitlement over the nation’s roads. George Osborne reversing the efforts of a far greater politician; Winston Churchill.

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  • July 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm #853149
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    Edgeley

    The new “road fund” won’t be
    The new “road fund” won’t be anywhere near enough to pay for the roads. The bulk of the road spending will still be from general taxation, including that from people who don’t have cars. That is as it should be. But it won’t help when we get told we have less right to the roads than gas guzzlers.

    Economically stupid, environmentally stupid, fiscally regressive, cyclist endangering. Thanks George.

    July 8, 2015 at 2:14 pm #853147
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    Martyn_K

    mrmo wrote:Martyn_K wrote:So

    mrmo wrote:
    Martyn_K wrote:
    So this tax is applied only to new registrations for vehicles bought after 2017? Well there is a simple answer to this one and loath as i am to want to pay more for a bike just slap a £10 tax on a new bike to cover a road tax.

    Drivers silenced. Job done.

    If only that was the problem!

    I agree. But it appears that the majority of drivers arguments stem from the belief that they pay for the roads and cyclists don’t. Therefore a tax contribution to ‘road funds’ on a new bike would instantly wipe out this unfair and incorrect prejudice.

    July 8, 2015 at 2:09 pm #853145
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    mrmo

    Martyn_K wrote:So this tax is

    Martyn_K wrote:
    So this tax is applied only to new registrations for vehicles bought after 2017? Well there is a simple answer to this one and loath as i am to want to pay more for a bike just slap a £10 tax on a new bike to cover a road tax.

    Drivers silenced. Job done.

    If only that was the problem!

    July 8, 2015 at 1:56 pm #853143
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    Martyn_K

    So this tax is applied only
    So this tax is applied only to new registrations for vehicles bought after 2017? Well there is a simple answer to this one and loath as i am to want to pay more for a bike just slap a £10 tax on a new bike to cover a road tax.

    Drivers silenced. Job done.

    July 8, 2015 at 1:32 pm #853141
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    Dnnnnnn

    It’s worth noting that ZERO
    It’s worth noting that ZERO emission (e.g full electric, as opposed to the current LOW emission, e.g. hybrid, some small diesel) vehicles will continue to pay £0 in VED. So we’re paying on the same basis as before.

    July 8, 2015 at 1:23 pm #853139
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    brooksby

    So presumably the Chancellor
    So presumably the Chancellor will expect cyclists and equestrians to also pay into his new Road Fund? Or else make it bleeding explicit that we have a right to be there without being expected to pay. Otherwise, we’d better start gearing up (geddit?) for more motorists screaming about how we have no right to be on the road.

    Not sure really how this will help anything – it’s still the same money available isn’t it? they’re just ring fencing VED. Hmm – how long before other taxes start getting hypothecated? No kids? Don’t pay for schools. In private healthcare scheme? Don’t pay for the NHS (while we still have one). etc. etc.

    I hope Carlton Reid does an analysis of this bantha pudu very soon.

    July 8, 2015 at 1:20 pm #853137
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    morphy_richards

    I bet loads of us own cars
    I bet loads of us own cars and pay VED but just mainly choose to use bikes.

    Perhaps a rucksack sticker or vest that says “My other bike is a car (and I pay VED)”

    July 8, 2015 at 12:47 pm #853135
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    vonhelmet

    I picked that bit out as
    I picked that bit out as well. It’ll mean that drivers are actually right when they whine about how they pay road tax.

    July 8, 2015 at 12:18 pm #853133
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    Dnnnnnn

    One silver lining is that it
    One silver lining is that it might help pay for better roads though – depends on whether it applies to local roads (98% of them) or just the trunk and motorway network. Councils have been neglecting local road maintenance and diverting the money to other things.

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