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Help! New Shimano ultegra 6700 wheelset – can’t get tyres on!

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  • March 7, 2010 at 4:17 pm #12226
    shortfat007

    :”(
    Per title, I’ve taken delivery of my new spanky Ultegra wheels and I’ve had a helluva job getting tyres on. The rims are tubeless compatible (so says the sticker) although I’m trying to run normal clinchers.
    I couldn’t get Bontrager tyres on, I struggled with Conti Super sports, and I finally got a pair of Conti Grand prix’s on after a complete mare and (shame oh shame) a couple of broken tyre levers. The obvious problem will be if I ever get a flat out on the road I’ll be calling home for a lift.
    Has anyone else had the same problem and is there a solution? Or are there any particular tyres that fall on any easier?
    Otherwise, there’ll be a pair of lovely new wheels going cheap!

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  • April 11, 2010 at 7:42 pm #633605
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    shortfat007

    Eureka! Michelin Pro Race –
    Eureka! Michelin Pro Race – fell on, no issues. Bloody conti’s were a nightmare! :/

    March 31, 2010 at 12:46 pm #633603
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    matt637

    I’ve actually managed to get
    I’ve actually managed to get the Conti Attack/Force tyres on the Ultegra wheels! 😀 Still a bit of a struggle and had to use the Var tyre lever (cheers Old Cranky for that), but they’re on; and no swearing, no popped tubes, no broken levers, no talc and no soapy water, but some sweat……so apologies to Albert at Madison for calling you a fibber.

    March 25, 2010 at 5:20 pm #633601
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    cat1commuter

    Another thing I’ve done
    Another thing I’ve done before is attempt to “pre stretch” the tyre by trapping it under the insteps of my feet and giving it a good pull. I think it helped a bit.

    I guess that if you have an old rim which you can get the tyre onto, then it might help if you fit the tyre, inflate the inner tube (so that the beads are forced onto the high, largest diameter edge of the rim) and leave it overnight to stretch.

    March 25, 2010 at 2:58 pm #633599
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    matt637

    Yes very funny cat1; but
    Yes very funny cat1; but joking aside, i have had crazy thoughts like that myself as i’ve never had such trouble getting tyres on wheels. no, these tyres are ones i’ve had on two other wheels (bianchi elevation and mavic cx63) with no problems whatsoever.
    any more suggestions? (serious ones this time!)

    March 25, 2010 at 1:54 pm #633597
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    cat1commuter

    You haven’t bought 650c tyres
    You haven’t bought 650c tyres have you? [code][/code]

    March 25, 2010 at 12:59 pm #633595
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    matt637

    i did scream out loud, but it
    i did scream out loud, but it still didn’t make the last bit go on!
    glad other people have spotted the fact that they’re completely different wheels in the picture – i think we originally started talking about the ultegra 6700 wheelset.
    cheers for all the suggestions, but i’m not going to hold my breath. they’re so far away from going on they may as well be on different wheels!

    March 25, 2010 at 11:17 am #633593
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    Tony Farrelly

    Yep different wheels Cat1 –
    Yep different wheels Cat1 – and the reason for the Speed Levers was that Shaun did indeed find them mightily tight.

    March 25, 2010 at 11:16 am #633591
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    cat1commuter

    rustyrider wrote:move to

    rustyrider wrote:
    move to japan! some sort of secluded mountain top location hidden by mist, and under the eager eye of grey haired master learn the mechanics art of Iron thumb!!

    Very funny. On a similar note – you might find it helpful if you scream out loud as you try to pull the last bit of bead over the rim edge.

    March 25, 2010 at 11:13 am #633589
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    cat1commuter

    cat1commuter

    cat1commuter wrote:
    [quote=tony_farrelly]It’s the Vittoria Open Pave Eco

    http://road.cc/content/review/15731-vittoria-open-pave-evo-cg-folding-tyre%5B/quote%5D

    And I thought that these tyres were notoriously tight!

    Oh, sorry, they are aren’t they? Those are different wheels.

    March 25, 2010 at 11:10 am #633587
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    cat1commuter

    tony_farrelly wrote:It’s the
    [quote=tony_farrelly]It’s the Vittoria Open Pave Eco

    http://road.cc/content/review/15731-vittoria-open-pave-evo-cg-folding-tyre%5B/quote%5D

    And I thought that these tyres were notoriously tight!

    March 25, 2010 at 9:34 am #633585
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    Tony Farrelly

    It’s the Vittoria Open Pave
    It’s the Vittoria Open Pave Eco

    http://road.cc/content/review/15731-vittoria-open-pave-evo-cg-folding-tyre

    March 25, 2010 at 9:27 am #633583
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    matt637

    I wonder if it’s because both
    I wonder if it’s because both of the tyres i’ve no success with so far have either carbon and/or kevlar in making them very tough. That tyre you’ve got in the picture looks really soft and supple; what is it?

    March 25, 2010 at 8:56 am #633581
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    Tony Farrelly

    I hate to suggest buying
    I hate to suggest buying something else when the tyre should just fit, but what about some Crank Brothers Speed Levers – Shaun used them to get the Vittoria Open Paves on to his rims when he was testing them. Maybe it is the tyre though because as Dave said we’ve been able to get tyres, other than Contis… don’t Madison do them too :), on to Dura wheels which have pretty much identical rims.

    March 25, 2010 at 8:36 am #633579
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    matt637

    Shortfat – i’m not pleased to
    Shortfat – i’m not pleased to hear that you’re struggling, but at the same time i am! Sorry, but I thought i was going mad. I’ve just finished building a bike up and the last thing i thought i would be struggling with is getting the tyres on the wheels; but I also have brand new Ultegra 6700 wheelset and the tyres are not even close to going on. After lots of head scratching and effing and jeffing I was ready to give up and sell the damn things, but determined not to let them beat me. I’ve tried Michelin and Vittoria tyres and both are nowhere near to going on. Managed to get the back tyre on after loosing my temper but then realised I’d popped the tube! I’ve used Var tyre levers, and talc powder, but still not going on!! (talc just made it easier for the tyre that I’d already got on to the rim to pop back off again – and it made a mess!). P.S. can’t believe the bloke at Madison hasn’t had a single problem – you fibber!……..but as I’m now getting desparate and he reckons he’s got Conti Attack/Force tyres to fit…..you’ve guessed it……I’ve ordered those tyres!!! If that doesn’t work it’s going to have to be tubeless, which will be a new one for me.
    Shortfat – have you had any luck since writing your original post? Ta, Matt.

    March 13, 2010 at 10:09 pm #633577
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    rustyrider

    move to japan! some sort of
    move to japan! some sort of secluded mountain top location hidden by mist, and under the eager eye of grey haired master learn the mechanics art of Iron thumb!!

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