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Giant Defy Advanced 2 vs Cube Agree GTC Race

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  • May 18, 2015 at 10:57 pm #24027
    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    So on the look for a new decent road bicycle that I will be using for weekend long rides 40-50 ++ miles. I have a commuter bicycle that I use and abuse so I am looking for a nice bicycle that will help me have smooth and comfortable rides. Now I have been looking for a week or so, and after a lot of reading and viewing, I ended up being in between these two:

    [url=http://www.cyclesurgery.com/giant-defy-advanced-2-2015/giant-road-bikes/bikes-components-bikewear/fcp-product/61386?listing=true]Giant Defy Advanced 2[/url]

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    [url=http://www.cyclesurgery.com/cube-agree-gtc-race-2015/cube-road-bikes/bikes-components-bikewear/fcp-product/59718?listing=true]Cube Agree GTC Race[/url]

    Now I am aware that Giant is in the market for a lot longer, so it has a big plus on the bike manufacturing business and the frames, however the Cube is full Ultegra and roughly 0.5kg lighter of what I discovered.

    Question is, that I have never ridden a Cube bicycle and I am not sure what would be the best choice ? Should I chose better components over a “better” branded frame or follow the name & brand and lose on the rest ?

    Any feedback would be great guys!

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  • May 20, 2015 at 12:13 am #846595
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    AJ101

    Spokely Cycling is showing
    Spokely Cycling is showing that you can get the Giant TCR 2 at Cycle Surgery down from £1900 to the same price as the Defy. As long as you take a Med or Large. Or a one off Norco with Ultegra from Evans… (Searching for ‘Bikes’ with a filter of 25% off)

    May 20, 2015 at 12:03 am #846593
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    hsiaolc

    sergius wrote:A lot of it
    [quote=sergius]A lot of it depends on what you plan on doing in the long term. Is this a starter bike that you might replace in a couple of years to something shinier – or is it a long-term purchase that you are likely to upgrade in future rather than replace.

    For me – I’d probably lean towards the Giant of those two – assuming you’d upgrade in future.

    My new Rose is currently being shipped to me at the moment – you might want to consider: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-dx-2000-761503/aid:761505%5B/quote%5D

    If the guy doesn’t want disc then you can look at this bike.

    https://www.canyon.com/en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3679

    May 19, 2015 at 11:54 pm #846591
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos wrote:
    much appreciated your information, but more keen on trying before buying really, especially when I will spend over £1k for it :)

    Because 1K is a lot of money for you to spend then it is even more imperative for you to get the best value for money bike.

    What you can do is try out a few bikes at your LBS and look at their geometry stats and then compared them and to see which geometry suits you the best. Then you look at Rose’s geometry and see if it is something that will suit you.

    You want more racy or more comfortable and relaxed? From your choice of Giant Defy it is an indication you want Endurance type bike then Rose Xeon CDX should be just fine for you.

    Choose the right sizing. If got all of it wrong or you don’t like the bike you have 30 days money back guarantee. You loose nothing but a bit of your time and effort. Might be even fun to go through the whole process and in the end you will end up with a bike you love.

    May 19, 2015 at 2:33 pm #846589
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    much appreciated your
    much appreciated your information, but more keen on trying before buying really, especially when I will spend over £1k for it 🙂

    May 19, 2015 at 1:02 pm #846587
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    sergius

    Rose is similar to Canyon,
    Rose is similar to Canyon, online only. No ability to try before you buy I’m afraid. You are basically buying on 3rd party reviews and spec.

    Depends what you are comfortable with, and whether you need assistance with frame sizing and fit.

    May 19, 2015 at 12:52 pm #846585
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    I would agree on the crank as
    I would agree on the crank as well, this is the only thing that actually makes me worried or think about it too much… is a win win situation I guess. My problem is that I rode the Giant for like 10 minutes, whereas the Cube is not available anywhere at the moment for me to see it and give it a go 🙁

    May 19, 2015 at 12:25 pm #846583
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    hughw

    As I said on another recent
    As I said on another recent Cube related thread, I really like the bikes, but I’ve had a bit of trouble with the wheels. For me it was the cheap Fulcrum Racing 77s, on which the freewheel decided to stop working, but I suspect the OEM mavics are a bit better.
    Something that does bother me about the giant is the non-series cranks, and that’s one of the things that pushed me towards cube when I bought my bike.

    May 19, 2015 at 11:34 am #846581
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    I would get it as an entry
    I would get it as an entry bike, that will also push me to do long rides every weekend (spending that much money, I will be doing it more often!), but I am not sure whether I will upgrade it or sell it eventually for a more decent one. We are looking for 2-3 years time from now so different decisions will be taken if that makes sense.

    I had a look on the Rose and it does look quite nice as well – thanks for that! Do you know if there are any stores in London that have Rose bikes to view ?

    May 19, 2015 at 10:53 am #846579
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    sergius

    A lot of it depends on what
    A lot of it depends on what you plan on doing in the long term. Is this a starter bike that you might replace in a couple of years to something shinier – or is it a long-term purchase that you are likely to upgrade in future rather than replace.

    For me – I’d probably lean towards the Giant of those two – assuming you’d upgrade in future.

    My new Rose is currently being shipped to me at the moment – you might want to consider: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-xeon-dx-2000-761503/aid:761505

    May 19, 2015 at 10:47 am #846577
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    Well the Disc Break that
    Well the Disc Break that Giant is using is also one of the top on the list of non-hydraulic ones. And apparently the 105 of 2015 only lose in weight compared to the Ultegra. That is from information that I have read online though… so nothing from personal experience…

    May 19, 2015 at 10:33 am #846575
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    the infamous grouse

    tricky. full ultegra or
    tricky. full ultegra or partial 105 and good disc brakes.

    May 19, 2015 at 10:15 am #846573
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    alkiviadis.tsitsigkos

    Thanks sergius. I did have a
    Thanks sergius. I did have a chat with a guy at cyclesurgery and he did suggest Giant is better frame wise but at the end of the day is whichever makes you feel better when you ride it. But we are also talking about the comparison of components ie, Ultegra vs 105 & Disc breaks… so I might have to wait if anyone else has more to add 🙂

    May 19, 2015 at 8:27 am #846571
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    sergius

    I’ve a Cube at the moment
    I’ve a Cube at the moment (2013 Agree GTC), you get a lot of bike for the money and I’ve been happy with mine. I’m upgrading it now a couple of years later, but it’s certainly served me well doing 60-80 miles most weekends.

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